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Why does Dora need therapy?

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Tiogyr:

--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 14 Jun 2011, 12:24 ---We know that Dora's been to at least one therapy session. She thought it was a failure because she talked about her brother the whole time. Jeph commented in the newspost that Dora was not being particularly self-aware there.

Is there argument, or consensus, that Dora herself thinks she needs therapy?

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Given how Dora reacted to it, with no follow-up asking her how therapy was going since then, would it be fair to say that question should be held off on until Jeph addresses whether or not she's still seeing her therapist?

TRVA123:
What actions of Marten led to his relationship with Dora ending?

I don't think it's fair to cite his job or hobbies (or lack thereof), he and Dora never had a fight about either of those things. If you do cite something like that, please link to a comic that shows this leading to instability in M-D relationship.

I'm not trying to say that Marten is some innocent victim here, but from my reading of the comic the breakup was entirely driven by Dora's issues, and nothing else.

TheEvilDog:
I have to agree with TRVA, you can't say it was a lack of hobbies or his job that led to the relationship failing. Coffee of Doom has virtually guarenteed that Dora has next to no time outside of the coffehouse. She works what? 60? 70 hour weeks? Thats the paid hours she probably does, because after that Dora probably has to concentrate on the roasting beans, sorting out the day's takings, ordering new stock, keeping the accounts in order, not to mention cleaning up or opening C.o.D.. I know no store manager or owner that pays themselves for that. Thats another three hours onto her day, at least. So, as a small business owner, Dora probably spends about 13 hours working on her business, with presumably 7 hours sleep, if she's lucky. That means that Dora has about 4 hours free each day. Barely enough time to have something to eat, shower, spend time with her friends or boyfriend, let alone have any hobbies.

If we look through the comic, Dora laments that she doesn't really share any interests with him, save for when they went to the S.H.R.A. concert, but beyond that, she doesn't make any effort to join in with the band, even if its just for support, or to get Marten to play the guitar for her. Meanwhile, we saw Marten get tickets to a horror film festival, pick up some Terry Pratchet books and take an interest when Dora was worried about C.o.D.

I'm not saying that Marten is a saint, far from it, but a relationship is about give and take, if neither share an interest/hobby, then they create an interest together. Did we see that between Dora and Marten? No, not really. But for the time being any relationship Dora enters will have four in there, Dora, whoever she is dating, C.o.D. and her issues.

themacnut:
I do have to wonder if Dora may have been more secure about her relationship with Marten if he hadn't been sharing an apartment with the woman he admitted still having feelings for. If Marten and Faye had stopped living together when he and Dora started dating, at least one fight between them wouldn't have happened. Marten might (I repeat might) have been able to do a better job convincing Dora to get a handle on her insecurities then.

TRVA123:

--- Quote from: themacnut on 14 Jun 2011, 16:13 ---I do have to wonder if Dora may have been more secure about her relationship with Marten if he hadn't been sharing an apartment with the woman he admitted still having feelings for. If Marten and Faye had stopped living together when he and Dora started dating, at least one fight between them wouldn't have happened. Marten might (I repeat might) have been able to do a better job convincing Dora to get a handle on her insecurities then.


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That is a fair point, but within the context of the comic I don't think Marten moving out of the apartment right when he and Dora started dating would make sense.

Marten had just lost his job and probably didn't have enough money saved up to make a downpayment on a new place. He would also be leaving Faye in the lurch, as I'm sure her job doesn't pay well enough for her to afford the apartment by herself. While Marten might have moved in with Steve, where would Faye go? Hanner's probably couldn't handle it, and moving in with Dora would leave us with the original problem.

Also, Marten would have to know about Dora's trust issues and insecurities right at the beginning of the relationship, and there was really no way he could have.
Marten couldn't move in with Dora right away, as that would be a bit too fast for both of them.

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