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WCDT 20-24 June (1951-1955)
someone:
--- Quote from: Akima on 22 Jun 2011, 02:54 ---
--- Quote from: Coffee_Kaioken on 22 Jun 2011, 00:36 ---Hope you enjoy your date, Dora, you know, after dumping Marten and all. At least you're there now, smiling.
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Yeah, because dumping someone disqualifies you from going out with someone else ever again, and smiling is right out of course. :roll:
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The problem is that the first poster identifies with the characters and must have some emotionial involvement with them. Jehp has taken this from a story of Marten and those around him to a hipster slacker episode of Glee. A key point in development in a comic is when you mature certain story lines and need to take a character forward. Jeph has decided to treat Marten like later Vonegut and John Le Carre male characters, thrusting them into pathetic predictable defeat.
So the story goes from Marten and his friends where we cheer for them and their cute foibles, hoping that things turn out, to a morose turn of events for the main guy as his ex girlfried thrives while his world has an almost where every physical location he inhabits is painful (work with Tai hitting on Dora, Coffee of Doom with Dora blowing him off then dating an old perv, and My Secret Backery with said perv) and his friends all just accept the situation without support or commiseration except being told to buck up or that it would be hot if Tai and Dora got together.
If you had read this first and worked your way back, you may have accepted the Glee or contrived reality show feeling to this later story line but if you were from the beginning, you could be frustrated and betrayed by the turn of the comic. While I may not like it anymore, I am sure my 13 year old daughter would eat it up, at least until she gets a few years older.
themacnut:
--- Quote from: NotAwesomeAnymore on 22 Jun 2011, 04:49 ---From a storyline point of view, I don't see why she would do all the same stuff she did with Marten all over again. That's an awful lot of time and effort to just say "Dora hasn't fixed her issues" and it's also really boring.
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Besides, it would be a helluva kick in the teeth to Butt Monkey Marten if yet another ex ended up in a successful relationship with a guy who wasn't him. Yes I think Marten's back to being the Butt Monkey/Chew Toy - he had a short break from it while dating Dora, but that has obviously ended with that relationship. Which is why I say Marten will have no luck at the party - either he'll be shot down in flames at every approach, or he'll be too depressed to accept any overtures from any Smif girls who may hit on him.
guayec:
--- Quote from: someone on 22 Jun 2011, 07:47 ---The problem is that the first poster identifies with the characters and must have some emotionial involvement with them. Jehp has taken this from a story of Marten and those around him to a hipster slacker episode of Glee. A key point in development in a comic is when you mature certain story lines and need to take a character forward. Jeph has decided to treat Marten like later Vonegut and John Le Carre male characters, thrusting them into pathetic predictable defeat.
So the story goes from Marten and his friends where we cheer for them and their cute foibles, hoping that things turn out, to a morose turn of events for the main guy as his ex girlfried thrives while his world has an almost where every physical location he inhabits is painful (work with Tai hitting on Dora, Coffee of Doom with Dora blowing him off then dating an old perv, and My Secret Backery with said perv) and his friends all just accept the situation without support or commiseration except being told to buck up or that it would be hot if Tai and Dora got together.
If you had read this first and worked your way back, you may have accepted the Glee or contrived reality show feeling to this later story line but if you were from the beginning, you could be frustrated and betrayed by the turn of the comic. While I may not like it anymore, I am sure my 13 year old daughter would eat it up, at least until she gets a few years older.
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Spot on. Man, I still read the comic, but I don't feel any attachment to the characters anymore. A while ago I felt identified with several of them, or some of their personal traits, but lately they seem more and more unreal to me. I repeat: TO ME. I'm sure there're people like that in the world and I've met them, but they're just not in my social circle. That's why the last few months QC hasn't been fun for me. :-(
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: themacnut on 22 Jun 2011, 08:43 ---he had a short break from it while dating Dora,
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Short, as in well over half the extent of the comic.
themacnut:
My bad, you're right about how long the "break" lasted. Either way though, it's obviously over, and Marten's had no luck with the ladies since, plus all the other crap he's had to deal with.
Sucks to be Marten once again, is all I'm saying.
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