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[Tom]

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[Inlander]

Oh, awesome! I thought it was taking a year off, a la Mad Men.

I can't wait to cringe and wince and gasp through another season of Walter White's slow descent into hell.

[Tom]

I think he may be there already, I'm getting the sense that he's completely flipped. For me season 3's finale was the point that I found him truly irredeemable.

[satsugaikaze]

Having only seen the first two, this poster sort of frightens me as to where he's going with all this.

[Inlander]

What I love about Breaking Bad is the creeping realisation as you watch it that Walt was never, actually, a good man - he was just a man we thought ought to be good because at first we felt sorry for him.

[Dazed]

The one thing that I admire most about this show is that there is no action without consequence, even if it takes four or five episodes to show up. Everything comes back in the end, and the writers are totally merciless to the characters when they deserve it.

[satsugaikaze]

See the thing is that at the beginning, I had the impression that he would have actually been quite a decent guy before the events of the series happened, but now that he's terminally ill and only going downhill from there, I sort of expected things to only get worse.

[Inlander]

I dunno, the more I watch him push Jesse around because in his view Jesse's just a "loser" the more I come to think that actually, while he was always probably decent enough to people who he viewed as his social equal, he was also probably always filled with unshakeable contempt for people he deemed to be beneath him. So a junkie's always a junkie and is always going to be a junkie to him, and he just can't allow the possibility of any kind of redeeming features in any such people.

Which kind of makes him an arsehole, really. It's just that until recently he was never desperate enough for the arseholishness to manifest itself too clearly.

[J]

I think he may be there already, I'm getting the sense that he's completely flipped. For me season 3's finale was the point that I found him truly irredeemable.

i found him irredeemable when he started selling meth. particularly after he turned down his rich friends who offered to pay for his treatment.

[Method of Madness]

Aww, yeah, just three more days!

[knives]

Saw a episode of it last night and I can't believe it took so long. Maybe you can't get it from one episode but I don't understand the depressing comments too much. There's a nastiness sure, but the universe of at least the episode is moral in a way that I can't help but feel that the bad stuff is just a balancing act between bad people (and this thread is reinforcing that idea). That said the one thing that annoys me about the premise is that cancer can kill in a pretty harsh way and even with treatment I don't see how he could be that healthy for that long. Shouldn't he (without treatment) be 100lbs and unable to get out of bed by this point?

[TheFuriousWombat]

you should probably watch more than one random episode

[Retrospectre]

That said the one thing that annoys me about the premise is that cancer can kill in a pretty harsh way and even with treatment I don't see how he could be that healthy for that long. Shouldn't he (without treatment) be 100lbs and unable to get out of bed by this point?

If I remember correctly after having chemo throughout season one and two the cancer was shrunk down to an operable size and removed at the end of season two.

So for now he's okay.

[knives]

That answers all questions (and I will be picking season one after this good episode).

[pwhodges]

Pretty much any possibility can occur with cancer.  It can end up nasty, but some cancers can even be cured completely (I had cancer over 20 years ago).

[Tom]

It's in remission.

[Inlander]

Actually, the cancer being in remission becomes a major part of the psychological impact of the show, because

NON-SPECIFIC SPOILERS, I GUESS?











By that stage Walter's already done a bunch of horrendous stuff and suddenly he's faced with the brutal reality that none of it was necessary.