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WCDT: Independence Day Week (4 - 8 July, 1961-1965)
ChibiSoma:
--- Quote from: Tiogyr on 05 Jul 2011, 09:52 ---Because Marten regularly complained about Dora's complete lack of any respect for him, which is just as important, but failed to realize that he did nothing to earn that respect.
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Yeah, I mean all he did was accept her and stay with her despite her disrespecting his wishes and behaving in a completely unacceptable way for a grown fucking person to act! Yeah, he didn't do dick to earn her respect.
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Dora's completely at fault here. She's completely off her rocker insane. She sees her boyfriend hugging her other friend and immediately jumped to the "AHA YOU'RE FUCKING AUGH GO TO HELL" conclusion! On more than one occasion, she has behaved like this. Marten did what any half-brained person would do when saddled with someone certifiably insane - he called her out on treating him like shit, being out of her god damn mind, and got the hell out of the relationship! There's only so much a normal person can take of someone else's continued acts of bullshit before they get fed up. Even the most spineless person in the world can reach their breaking point if they're pushed for long enough, and that's exactly what happened here.
Despite Marten constantly reassuring Dora's retarded ass that he cared about her, she couldn't accept that as fact and was constantly searching for reasons to prove it, hence her absurd outbursts at the slightest thing. She didn't respect Marten's privacy despite being asked, she flies off the handle, and it takes someone getting in her face and screaming at her before the dumb bitch realizes she keeps fucking things up!
Yeah, Marten didn't do shit to earn her respect. He only stayed faithful to her despite her insecurities.
What an asshole that Marten guy is.
Oh wait, I forgot. You aren't allowed to become sick of someone's shit. You aren't allowed to say "Enough" and put your foot down. Poor poor Dora. Poor poor brought-it-all-on-herself-so-fuck-her Dora.
And you know what the worst part of all this is? They'll get back together. They'll get back together and Dora will not have changed. Or she will but she'll have "episodes," I believe is the term, where she'll regress and blow up for totally mundane shit occurring around her. She isn't mentally stable and shouldn't be treated as if she were. Trying to shift blame onto Marten when he didn't do fucking anything but put his foot down and tell her he was sick and tired of her CONSTANT god damn horseshit proves that. And yet he'll still scamper back to her like a little lost puppy.
What?
No.
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That's not how it works, god dammit. <moderator>personal remarks removed</moderator> Nothing serious can ever continue for long in QC. Tai will always be a stereotype who thinks with her libido first, Hannelore will never be normal and awesome again, Faye will keep fucking everyone BUT Marten because she's a whore, Dora will always be psychotic, and Marten will only grow a pair of balls in the most extreme of circumstances. That's how it works. We'll never see Dora with Tai (because Tai can't be happy) and we'll never see Marten stop being a mopey cunt over getting out of his poisonous relationship. Seeing either of those would require a capability in writing that I just don't think Jeph can pull off. So Marten will end up back with Dora and everyone here will be all "DAWWWWW" over it. That's just how it works in QC.
dragontart:
--- Quote ---You are completely allowed to respect them, consciously or unconsciously. You may be the outlier in the equation.
However people (this is just my personal opinion) usually seemed to get walked over more, when they have less respect for themselves. The more they are like, "It's okay if Person X does this, that or other thing to me, I don't care." The more someone says, "Oh, they're letting me get away with this? Then I'll continue, and do more of it."
Usually just seems like human nature to me.
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I do agree absolutely. I just think it usually says more about those who don't show respect than about those who don't get said respect. I also think it would be better/easier for Marten if he wasn't what's generally seen as a loser/slacker/etc. who doesn't deserve respect, but I don't think one should blame Marten for other peoples (in my opinion) weird definitions of that. But indeed that's just me.
There's some exhilarating, fine swearing in the post above me.
Schmorgluck:
ChibiSoma, you could have kept it civil instead of going for name-calling.
Tiogyr:
--- Quote from: ChibiSoma on 05 Jul 2011, 11:00 ---
--- Quote from: Tiogyr on 05 Jul 2011, 09:52 ---Because Marten regularly complained about Dora's complete lack of any respect for him, which is just as important, but failed to realize that he did nothing to earn that respect.
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Yeah, I mean all he did was accept her and stay with her despite her disrespecting his wishes and behaving in a completely unacceptable way for a grown fucking person to act! Yeah, he didn't do dick to earn her respect.
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Dora's completely at fault here. She's completely off her rocker insane. She sees her boyfriend hugging her other friend and immediately jumped to the "AHA YOU'RE FUCKING AUGH GO TO HELL" conclusion! On more than one occasion, she has behaved like this. Marten did what any half-brained person would do when saddled with someone certifiably insane - he called her out on treating him like shit, being out of her god damn mind, and got the hell out of the relationship! There's only so much a normal person can take of someone else's continued acts of bullshit before they get fed up. Even the most spineless person in the world can reach their breaking point if they're pushed for long enough, and that's exactly what happened here.
Despite Marten constantly reassuring Dora's retarded ass that he cared about her, she couldn't accept that as fact and was constantly searching for reasons to prove it, hence her absurd outbursts at the slightest thing. She didn't respect Marten's privacy despite being asked, she flies off the handle, and it takes someone getting in her face and screaming at her before the dumb bitch realizes she keeps fucking things up!
Yeah, Marten didn't do shit to earn her respect. He only stayed faithful to her despite her insecurities.
What an asshole that Marten guy is.
Oh wait, I forgot. You aren't allowed to become sick of someone's shit. You aren't allowed to say "Enough" and put your foot down. Poor poor Dora. Poor poor brought-it-all-on-herself-so-fuck-her Dora.
And you know what the worst part of all this is? They'll get back together. They'll get back together and Dora will not have changed. Or she will but she'll have "episodes," I believe is the term, where she'll regress and blow up for totally mundane shit occurring around her. She isn't mentally stable and shouldn't be treated as if she were. Trying to shift blame onto Marten when he didn't do fucking anything but put his foot down and tell her he was sick and tired of her CONSTANT god damn horseshit proves that. And yet he'll still scamper back to her like a little lost puppy.
What?
No.
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That's not how it works, god dammit. <moderator>personal remarks removed</moderator> Nothing serious can ever continue for long in QC. Tai will always be a stereotype who thinks with her libido first, Hannelore will never be normal and awesome again, Faye will keep fucking everyone BUT Marten because she's a whore, Dora will always be psychotic, and Marten will only grow a pair of balls in the most extreme of circumstances. That's how it works. We'll never see Dora with Tai (because Tai can't be happy) and we'll never see Marten stop being a mopey cunt over getting out of his poisonous relationship. Seeing either of those would require a capability in writing that I just don't think Jeph can pull off. So Marten will end up back with Dora and everyone here will be all "DAWWWWW" over it. That's just how it works in QC.
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Just quoting this so when someone comes along to point out that Dora dumped Marten and that pretty much everyone in-comic was shitting on Marten with regard to the breakup itself, his own mother included, you can't edit this ridiculous post.
You may also want to go back and re-read my posts in this thread and stop posting as if I'm saying something I'm not.
edit: I forget who originally pointed it out on here, but I don't think Jeph naming Marten after a relative of the weasel was an accident.
grimeyville:
--- Quote from: ChibiSoma on 05 Jul 2011, 11:00 ---
--- Quote from: Tiogyr on 05 Jul 2011, 09:52 ---Because Marten regularly complained about Dora's complete lack of any respect for him, which is just as important, but failed to realize that he did nothing to earn that respect.
--- End quote ---
Yeah, I mean all he did was accept her and stay with her despite her disrespecting his wishes and behaving in a completely unacceptable way for a grown fucking person to act! Yeah, he didn't do dick to earn her respect.
<moderator>Unacceptable language removed</moderator>
Dora's completely at fault here. She's completely off her rocker insane. She sees her boyfriend hugging her other friend and immediately jumped to the "AHA YOU'RE FUCKING AUGH GO TO HELL" conclusion! On more than one occasion, she has behaved like this. Marten did what any half-brained person would do when saddled with someone certifiably insane - he called her out on treating him like shit, being out of her god damn mind, and got the hell out of the relationship! There's only so much a normal person can take of someone else's continued acts of bullshit before they get fed up. Even the most spineless person in the world can reach their breaking point if they're pushed for long enough, and that's exactly what happened here.
Despite Marten constantly reassuring Dora's retarded ass that he cared about her, she couldn't accept that as fact and was constantly searching for reasons to prove it, hence her absurd outbursts at the slightest thing. She didn't respect Marten's privacy despite being asked, she flies off the handle, and it takes someone getting in her face and screaming at her before the dumb bitch realizes she keeps fucking things up!
Yeah, Marten didn't do shit to earn her respect. He only stayed faithful to her despite her insecurities.
What an asshole that Marten guy is.
Oh wait, I forgot. You aren't allowed to become sick of someone's shit. You aren't allowed to say "Enough" and put your foot down. Poor poor Dora. Poor poor brought-it-all-on-herself-so-fuck-her Dora.
And you know what the worst part of all this is? They'll get back together. They'll get back together and Dora will not have changed. Or she will but she'll have "episodes," I believe is the term, where she'll regress and blow up for totally mundane shit occurring around her. She isn't mentally stable and shouldn't be treated as if she were. Trying to shift blame onto Marten when he didn't do fucking anything but put his foot down and tell her he was sick and tired of her CONSTANT god damn horseshit proves that. And yet he'll still scamper back to her like a little lost puppy.
What?
No.
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That's not how it works, god dammit. <moderator>personal remarks removed</moderator> Nothing serious can ever continue for long in QC. Tai will always be a stereotype who thinks with her libido first, Hannelore will never be normal and awesome again, Faye will keep fucking everyone BUT Marten because she's a whore, Dora will always be psychotic, and Marten will only grow a pair of balls in the most extreme of circumstances. That's how it works. We'll never see Dora with Tai (because Tai can't be happy) and we'll never see Marten stop being a mopey cunt over getting out of his poisonous relationship. Seeing either of those would require a capability in writing that I just don't think Jeph can pull off. So Marten will end up back with Dora and everyone here will be all "DAWWWWW" over it. That's just how it works in QC.
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Huh.
So what close friend of yours got their heart stomped to pieces?
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