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WCDT: 11-15 July 2011 (1966-1970)
grimeyville:
--- Quote from: Tiogyr on 13 Jul 2011, 07:27 ---
--- Quote ---Raging drunk that translates to, "Women don't like me and treat me like crap because I'm not an asshole", instead of logically, "My girlfriend and I have issues to work out, Faye and I would have been terrible because I'm too passive".
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Is one of these really any better or worse than the other?
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Depending on your perspective, yes. Passive =/= Not an asshole.
You can be passionate, driven for example, without being a jerk.
Sure Marten is bitter, and a lot of people are bitter, but it's kind of like... Is he bitter for the right reasons? No that's not right...
Hmm. Maybe that is it.
Near Lurker:
Okay, remember that "shouldn't be dating anyone" thing? Is there a reason it'll be different with Tai that doesn't contain some permutation of "it'lll be hot"?
Faye Whitaker:
--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 13 Jul 2011, 07:51 ---Okay, remember that "shouldn't be dating anyone" thing? Is there a reason it'll be different with Tai that doesn't contain some permutation of "it'lll be hot"?
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No, but she may be going over to talk to Tai in a chivalrous manner or such.
Tiogyr:
--- Quote from: wrwight on 13 Jul 2011, 07:39 ---Tiogyr, I really do appreciate your contribution to these forums, but dammit we both look at the same thing and see two completely different interpretations, and you have a special way of subtly masking intention of the poster and turning their point completely around to someone else. This is at least the second time you've done it to me. It's a gift really, but it doesn't make it any less aggravating when I'm the victim :-P
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That really wasn't an intentional twisting of your post, I just didn't want to use the same comic link you did and then have someone be all "Hey, wrwight just linked that same comic!". It was more of an attributing proper credit because you dug it up first.
--- Quote from: Mr. Doctor on 13 Jul 2011, 07:45 ---I don't want a Dora/Tai couple, ever.
The weird thing is that if you guys ask me "why do you say that?" I wouldn't have anything to say. I don't even know why. It's just that my brain goes all "Dora and Tai...No...No...No. Does not work"
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I'd say it's because Dora doesn't actually have enough respect for Tai in the way that is needed for an equal relationship. Tai has this unreasonable crush on her idealistic perception of Dora, etc.
--- Quote from: grimeyville on 13 Jul 2011, 07:46 ---
--- Quote from: Tiogyr on 13 Jul 2011, 07:27 ---
--- Quote ---Raging drunk that translates to, "Women don't like me and treat me like crap because I'm not an asshole", instead of logically, "My girlfriend and I have issues to work out, Faye and I would have been terrible because I'm too passive".
--- End quote ---
Is one of these really any better or worse than the other?
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Depending on your perspective, yes. Passive =/= Not an asshole.
You can be passionate, driven for example, without being a jerk.
Sure Marten is bitter, and a lot of people are bitter, but it's kind of like... Is he bitter for the right reasons? No that's not right...
Hmm. Maybe that is it.
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That's kind of the thing, he had no real reason to be bitter in those early comics and yet, he was (griping about it every time somebody brought it up, check the facial expression in the comic wrwight linked). Marten's angry drunk rambling expresses it as anger over not being enough of an asshole to attract women (which comes pretty close to the term we're not allowed to use here), while you offer a substitute that really isn't any better because the end result still puts Marten in the same situation (because he was still being a jerk).
It would be nice to have a few comics where Marten isn't so damn passive in his interest in a woman while still being a genuinely decent guy, but it hasn't happened yet.
--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 13 Jul 2011, 07:51 ---Okay, remember that "shouldn't be dating anyone" thing? Is there a reason it'll be different with Tai that doesn't contain some permutation of "it'lll be hot"?
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I'm not so sure Dora is going to be going after anything with Tai at this point (and we're just seeing typical puppy dog Tai doing a rush after Dora due to her irrational crush).
Faye Whitaker:
--- Quote from: Tiogyr on 13 Jul 2011, 07:56 ---
That's kind of the thing, he had no real reason to be bitter in those early comics. Marten's angry drunk rambling expresses it as anger over not being enough of an asshole to attract women (which comes pretty close to the term we're not allowed to use here), while you offer a substitute that really isn't any better because the end result still puts Marten in the same situation (because he was still being a jerk).
It would be nice to have a few comics where Marten isn't so damn passive in his interest in a woman while still being a genuinely decent guy, but it hasn't happened yet.
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A Marten that isn't passive in his interest for women yet still genuinely a decent guy. Reminds me of Angus to be honest...
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