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It's finally ending, Harry
« on: 12 Jul 2011, 17:32 »

10 years; 8 movies; 7 books.

Not a bad run, I say. In any case, the last movie and part is nearly upon us. How do you feel about it? Will you be one of the many rushing to see it the day it comes out or will you wait in anticipation for a couple of days to empty the cinema out and watch the movie in peace? Or do you just don't really care?
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #1 on: 12 Jul 2011, 17:40 »

I haven't watched any of the movies after Goblet of Fire and I don't feel like I'm missing much.
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #2 on: 13 Jul 2011, 00:22 »

I have tickets for the 12:40 AM showing. :) I will be dressing up. This has been a very special part of my life, and I don't plan to miss its finale. I have a feeling they're going to justice to the second part of the book, as Part 1 did a great job of recreating it on the screen. If nothing else, it will be visually stunning. I used to be pretty picky about the movies, but now I just want to enjoy them for what they are. I have no expectations and therefore don't get disappointed anymore. It's just a movie.

Yes, I know I just said "It's just a movie," but I said I'll be dressing up and going to a very early showing. It is just a movie. But I do think it's fun to dress up and be goofy with everyone else. This is something that's been around for more than half our lives, that we've loved through the years. It will be a celebration of a good time period in our lives. :)
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #3 on: 13 Jul 2011, 00:40 »

Tomorrow another forum member (richlitt) and me are going to be watching all of the 8 movies.
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #4 on: 13 Jul 2011, 06:55 »

I've never read any of the books or seen any of the movies, is it too late to give them a read/watch or have I missed the boat on this being a thing worth looking at?
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #5 on: 13 Jul 2011, 07:56 »

I guess some of us have just stayed children for our whole lives.
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #6 on: 13 Jul 2011, 08:28 »

Heh... I was 22 when the first movie came out. I've enjoyed watching them all - saw all but the last one in theaters each time, though I never went for an opening night. I won't be able to see the final movie in the theater unless we can find someone willing to watch Mackenzie for the night, which is a little disappointing because I really enjoy movies like this on the big screen and hey, it's the last one ever. I've only read one of the books but keep meaning to read the others.

It all depends on what you like reading and watching. If you go into it expecting something truly deep and meaningful you might be disappointed, but they are at least fun anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: 13 Jul 2011, 08:52 »

fourth book (and movie) will always be my favorite
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« Reply #8 on: 13 Jul 2011, 08:53 »

also has anyone tried that pottermore thing
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #9 on: 13 Jul 2011, 10:13 »

Depends on how old you are. It's cool to really really enjoy Harry Potter if you grew up with it, but if you're twenty five years old... don't bother. Good children's books, less than awesome for adults.

I'm thirty years old. But the mid-20s at work talk like it's actually an enjoyable series.
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« Reply #10 on: 13 Jul 2011, 12:03 »

Well the fourth movie is arguably the worst of them all. The first are very... cutesy? The third is kind of out there, and the last three/four with the new director are wonderful.

Plus the upside to the books is that they take no effort. If you've got spare time (and you're a fast reader like me) you can blow through all seven in a week or less easily.
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #11 on: 13 Jul 2011, 18:51 »

I know I'm just 21, but here's what I have to say about whether you should read them or not: I would give it a go. The books are just as charming now as when I first read them. They're easy reading, and you can make them go as quickly or as slowly as you'd like. My mom is a pretty slow reader, but she enjoyed them so much that she finished them in a matter of about six months.

In short: If you're looking for an interesting read, and you've got the time for it, then you should give 'em a shot. They deal with a lot of different themes, both dark and light. And above all, they provide a wonderful escape from the reality of work and taxes and all of the other not-fun aspects of adult life.
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« Reply #12 on: 13 Jul 2011, 20:26 »

It is a really good fandom to escape in; you really have to start from the first one and in chronological order. It wouldn't hurt if you had someone whose already read the books or watched the movies to really explain some elements to the story although I probably would stay clear of the really hardcore ones.

Isn't the Pottermore thing essentially one of those film websites that they had a long time ago with a social network added in? I remember seeing my peers at school a long time ago spend a lot of time on a similar sort of website...
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #13 on: 15 Jul 2011, 02:39 »

Well, I've just woken up after getting back at 3am from the midnight showing here in the UK. There were quite a few moments that I'm pretty sure weren't supposed to be funny that pretty much the whole audience laughed at. But, having never actually gotten round to reading the final book, I enjoyed how it all ended, I just have no idea how faithful it all was to the original story. The Deathly Hallows films are probably my favourite of the bunch.
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #14 on: 15 Jul 2011, 02:41 »

Going tomorrow.  The tickets available today were not at times we liked, and waiting one more day won't kill us; selected an over-18s only showing.  We watched part 1 a couple of days ago to get back up to speed, of course.
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« Reply #15 on: 15 Jul 2011, 04:23 »

Going tomorrow.  The tickets available today were not at times we liked, and waiting one more day won't kill us; selected an over-18s only showing.  We watched part 1 a couple of days ago to get back up to speed, of course.

You can go to over 18 showings?  I'll have to give that a look, although I doubt Cineworld does that, at all.

I'm looking forward to it mainly because the Part 1 was probably the best film in the series. I remember walking out of 4,5 & 6 thinking "Well, I guess it was alright, but didn't really stay true the books" and I also have the added factor of not having read them for 5+ years so sort of forgot what happened. But I thought Part 1 was just really, really well done. It was more of an actual film, a story, with emotional consequences, than a re-run of a book. Will wait a week or so to see about going to the cinema.
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« Reply #16 on: 15 Jul 2011, 04:59 »

We saw all 8 movies yesterday.

I weeped like a babe during the last one. Full on tears streaming down my face.
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« Reply #17 on: 15 Jul 2011, 05:04 »

10 years; 8 movies; 7 books.

The first book was released in 1997, so technically that's 14 years.

I'll be going to see it, but I'm not all that bothered that it's finished, nor am I relieved it's finally over. Neither the books nor the films were masterpieces, but they were good stories that gripped the audience and captured the mind of a generation. I suppose in one way I'm a little glad it's over, because hopefully the fandom will die down a little now and people will appreciate the series for what it was without obsessing over it. That's probably a distant hope.

I'm looking forward to it mainly because the Part 1 was probably the best film in the series. I remember walking out of 4,5 & 6 thinking "Well, I guess it was alright, but didn't really stay true the books" and I also have the added factor of not having read them for 5+ years so sort of forgot what happened. But I thought Part 1 was just really, really well done. It was more of an actual film, a story, with emotional consequences, than a re-run of a book. Will wait a week or so to see about going to the cinema.

Bear in mind that the first book is tiny and a lot easier to make into a film. You try taking a book as thick as Order of the Phoenix and making it into a film that doesn't skim over most of the finer details. Even Rowling said: "It is simply impossible to incorporate every one of my storylines into a film that has to be kept under four hours long."
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #18 on: 15 Jul 2011, 06:11 »

You can go to over 18 showings?

That's at Vue (Oxford, but presumably elsewhere also); just one a day each for 2D and 3D.  I'm going to 2D; while I'd be interested to see what the current 3D technology is like, I know it has a very high chance of making my wife feel unwell (she has inner ear problems), so this isn't the occasion.
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« Reply #19 on: 15 Jul 2011, 07:02 »

I'm hoping to go in a couple of weeks, when it won't be so crowded and my brother will be here to visit. The first book came out when I was six, and one of my most vivid memories of being younger than about 11 was bounding along next to my mum all excited about this book which someone had brought into school - it was the second book, so I must have been about eight at the time. I was asking her if we could get it, not knowing that she had already bought it for me. I think I read it on holiday and then went back to read the first one.

It is very odd to have grown up with a series in this way. I feel like I'm exactly the right age - I was old enough at the beginning to enjoy the books, and I'm young enough now to still enjoy the films and books in a very similar way without all kinds of adult life getting in the way. It amazes me when my peers say that they have never read the books or seen the films; how on earth did they grow up at the same time as me, in the same country, and miss something that big?
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« Reply #20 on: 15 Jul 2011, 07:05 »

Who's going to admit to queueing up at midnight to buy any of the books on release?  I'll start the ball rolling by admitting to having done that at least twice <blush>, but I'll recover slightly from the embarrassment by pointing out that I did it for my wife, who got to read them before going to sleep.
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« Reply #21 on: 15 Jul 2011, 07:48 »

I went to the midnight screening of this on Tuesday (I suppose the one good thing about Australia is that we get some films earlier than usual) and it was awesome. Yes they cut a lot out but the pacing was great and they kept everything important and did it really really really well. The 3D was great, probably the best I've seen since Avatar but definitely catch the 2D if you get motion sickness.

I loved the books and the films. I don't much care that they weren't the best written books or the most well-acted films, frankly. The world was something I truly wanted to be a part of, the characters were all interesting and multidimensional (well, main characters anyway) and the whole thing, from the first book to the last film, has brought me enough joy to keep me re-reading and re-watching for a while yet.
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« Reply #22 on: 15 Jul 2011, 22:13 »

just got back from seeing it, still collecting my thoughts. i definitely liked it, but the movie felt really really rushed to me. and im not sure why, but im really bugged by the fact that they kind of brushed over the fact that fred died. i dunno why, just seems like something that shouldn't of been cut.
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« Reply #23 on: 16 Jul 2011, 02:56 »


Bear in mind that the first book is tiny and a lot easier to make into a film. You try taking a book as thick as Order of the Phoenix and making it into a film that doesn't skim over most of the finer details. Even Rowling said: "It is simply impossible to incorporate every one of my storylines into a film that has to be kept under four hours long."

Yep, this is why I feel that Part 1 was great, because they spent time doing things. Scenes of just characters remembering, like the part where Harry has his final look at the cupboard under the stairs. If this was just one film, they definitely wouldn't have time for scenes like that. Almost makes you think they should've been two-parters since Goblet, but it obviously isn't viable.

I'm hoping to go in a couple of weeks, when it won't be so crowded and my brother will be here to visit. The first book came out when I was six, and one of my most vivid memories of being younger than about 11 was bounding along next to my mum all excited about this book which someone had brought into school - it was the second book, so I must have been about eight at the time. I was asking her if we could get it, not knowing that she had already bought it for me. I think I read it on holiday and then went back to read the first one.

It is very odd to have grown up with a series in this way. I feel like I'm exactly the right age - I was old enough at the beginning to enjoy the books, and I'm young enough now to still enjoy the films and books in a very similar way without all kinds of adult life getting in the way. It amazes me when my peers say that they have never read the books or seen the films; how on earth did they grow up at the same time as me, in the same country, and miss something that big?

This is weirdly similar to how I got into the series - a day when my primary school had a book company come in and set up stands in our hall, and I remember looking at the Chamber of Secrets cover and thinking "this looks COOL" so read that, then the first book, and my love for the series continued on from there. It is entirely weird that people I know have missed Harry Potter, especially when the majority of the actors, the writer, and the films themselves are all from Britain. Props to JK, she made sure that although the films were financed by a Hollywood company, they were made in England.
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« Reply #24 on: 16 Jul 2011, 03:09 »

I just read that the HP films have taken more than all the Bond films ever or all the Star Wars films ever.
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« Reply #25 on: 16 Jul 2011, 04:26 »

ALL of the Bond films?  :-o That is amazing, especially considering there's more than three times the number of 007 films than in the HP series.

I only saw Sorcerer's Stone (Philosopher's Stone in the UK, I'd guess?), and none of the other movies. I have read all seven books, though. The last four books were a lot more intense than the first three combined. I wasn't surprised that Deathly Hallows was split up into two movies, though.

Oh - and I don't intend to go see DH2 or any of the other films. And no, I never bought any of the books at a midnight release.

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« Reply #26 on: 16 Jul 2011, 04:29 »

That's amazing although I think that might be because Harry Potter has had a much more significant and economically successful impact than the Bond films.

Looking back now at the movies, what MovieBob said in a review rings quite true. The movies were all pretty much like a BBC series except financed by a Hollywood company and on the big screen.
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« Reply #27 on: 16 Jul 2011, 08:10 »

ALL of the Bond films?  :-o That is amazing, especially considering there's more than three times the number of 007 films than in the HP series.

I doubt that number was inflation adjusted and since most of the Bond films came out in the 60s-70s (over half anyway) when movies were, what, like $1 or something (I honestly have no clue) that's would be how that's possible, if I had to guess. On the other hand, this latest HP made $43 million from midnight showings in the US alone (almost making back Radcliff's earnings for the final two movies - he got $50 million) so maybe inflation is considered. A lot of people like James Bond but the furor isn't - and never was - close to the HP fan frenzy.
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« Reply #28 on: 16 Jul 2011, 08:33 »

There's also the fact that HP lends itself to merchandising far more than James Bond does.
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« Reply #29 on: 16 Jul 2011, 08:56 »

I didn't get into the books until right before the fifth was released, and I was young then, so I got that one the day it came out. Not quite midnight, but close. Six and seven I went to book release parties for, and with the seventh I got it home and read the whole thing cover to cover without stopping.

I cried like a little baby. Just like I did for the movie. And now my roommate is mad that I went without her so I guess I have to go see it again. Aww shucks.
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« Reply #30 on: 16 Jul 2011, 09:57 »

So I saw the movie yesterday and had a pretty good time. Don't quite remember the last book though so I couldn't compare.
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« Reply #31 on: 16 Jul 2011, 14:57 »

Watched it tonight. It was pretty good. Even split into two films, I always knew it was going to seem rushed; there was just such a density of important information and events in the book, so I can't fault them for leaving out a couple of semi-significant plotlines.

The visual effects were fantastic, and the Hogwarts battle was spectacularly done. Mostly good performances all round - Daniel Radcliffe still can't act, though.
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« Reply #32 on: 16 Jul 2011, 15:42 »

I particularly liked the dragon; also the fire in the room of requirement.  Overall a decent end to a series that was always going to feel a bit unsatisfying in comparison with the books.
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« Reply #33 on: 16 Jul 2011, 21:02 »

So I took my sister to watch it today, seeing as she also loves Harry Potter albeit more than me despite not having grown up with it as I have.

Speaking strictly for the film in continuity with the seven previous film, it was pretty good. The visual effects were fantastic, I didn't mind that close to nearly 80% or so of the film was dedicated to the Hogwarts battle because that's pretty much the highlight and climax of the series. Looking back now when there was a reaction to the fact it was going to be split into 2 parts - there is no way that it could have condensed and gutted into a 2 and a half hour epic. I also liked that they subtly aged the main cast for the epilogue rather than bring in new actors to portray them older (although Draco doesn't look like he's aged well at all). So yeah, great movie.

But as a fan who grew up with the series from start to finish, I liked it but I just felt it could have been so much more. I think, personally, that the series has always fell a little short of what it could have been. To be fair, I know it is not possible to fit every single small detail about particular characters or events but...the way the finale was done to bring the Harry Potter universe to an end was only satisfactory at best. It was nice to see so many characters get a decent hero shot though. A very fitting ending to the end of era.
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« Reply #34 on: 16 Jul 2011, 21:32 »

grown up ginny looked goddamn weird
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« Reply #35 on: 16 Jul 2011, 21:33 »

good movie though
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #36 on: 17 Jul 2011, 00:30 »

Depends on how old you are. It's cool to really really enjoy Harry Potter if you grew up with it, but if you're twenty five years old... don't bother. Good children's books, less than awesome for adults.
If you're twenty-five now, that means you were eleven when the first book came out, which makes you the ideal age, actually.  (I'm almost 24, and was eleven when I read the first book, and it was really cool having Harry grow up with me, even if JK did make it take a little longer towards the end).

As for the movie itself, I really liked it.  Also, do you guys consider Harry Potter 7 to be two separate movies or one four and a half hour movie that was released in segments?  I would answer the latter.
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #37 on: 17 Jul 2011, 01:15 »

grown up ginny looked goddamn weird

I thought she was the only one who actually looked like she was nearly 40.
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« Reply #38 on: 17 Jul 2011, 08:04 »

grown up ginny looked goddamn weird

I thought they all looked weird

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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #39 on: 17 Jul 2011, 10:07 »

Depends on how old you are. It's cool to really really enjoy Harry Potter if you grew up with it, but if you're twenty five years old... don't bother. Good children's books, less than awesome for adults.
If you're twenty-five now, that means you were eleven when the first book came out, which makes you the ideal age, actually.  (I'm almost 24, and was eleven when I read the first book, and it was really cool having Harry grow up with me, even if JK did make it take a little longer towards the end).

Well, yes, that's what I said. If you grew up with it, no wonder you still love it in your mid-twenties! Reading the first harry potter book at 25, on the other hand, I'd imagine would be less amazing.
Ah, I guess I misread that, my bad.  I agree to a certain extent, at least about the first few books, but I wouldn't call books 4-7 children's books.
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #40 on: 17 Jul 2011, 15:14 »

I saw the movie 2 times in 1 day (unintentionally)

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« Reply #41 on: 17 Jul 2011, 19:48 »

the majority of the actors, the writer, and the films themselves are all from Britain. Props to JK, she made sure that although the films were financed by a Hollywood company, they were made in England.


I think this is why the films sometimes feel a little off. They look like big Hollywood movies but the writing and acting play out in BBC quality.
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« Reply #42 on: 18 Jul 2011, 22:07 »

I'm always surprised when people describe the books as simplistic or childish. I grew up with the books, and was the same age as Harry by the time Deathly Hallows came out, and my sentimental attachment to them is enormous, but I know no shortage of discerning adults who think the books are wonderful, compelling, reading, and I tend to wonder whether the people who see them as childish and simplistic read past the second book, because the later books in particular deal with some genuinely complex emotional and moral stuff, questions of injustice, shifting friendships and family relationships, of what it really means to be brave and good as opposed to what it means to take the easy route that looks like bravery and goodness. The characterisations are rich and layered for the leads and far from two-dimensional for secondary characters, though you need to be actively looking to see that sometimes (there are personality things you might miss when reading as a younger kid but see clearly on a reread when you're older), and Rowling writes with a great ear for dialogue and a mystery writer's enthusiasm for clue-planting and careful plotting.

(We didn't have midnight releases here - we had 9am ones instead for the later books, when they were being strictly rolled out at the same time everywhere around the world - and I was there at 8.59 counting down for the 6th book, and got there shortly after the shop opening for the 7th.)
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #43 on: 18 Jul 2011, 23:30 »

Not all of them.
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #44 on: 19 Jul 2011, 03:01 »

I see them as children's books, but not childish; this makes it possible for adults to read them as well.  Wikipedia has a decent summary of the different critical views of the series, and different critics' positioning of it.
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #45 on: 19 Jul 2011, 10:35 »

I've enjoyed both the books and the movies. 

The books are good young adult (I hesitate to call the later books children's books due to some of the darker elements)/easy reading fare.  Nothing too deep about them, but solid and consistent characterizations with reasonable character development throughout.  And since I do most of my reading on the bus on the way to work - I'm not looking for my recreational reading to be excessively complex.

The movies are visually quite stunning with the effects and the very good story telling.  I'm also quite happy with the way that practically every major character in the movies was played by the same actor throughout the series to allow for consistency (Richard Harris being replaced as Dumbledore being a major exception, but Zombie Dumbledore, might have been a bit more challenging to deal with. 

All in all I've enjoyed the run, and so have my wife and kids.  Not something you can say about every movie series.
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #46 on: 20 Jul 2011, 01:39 »


I think this was the funniest part in the movie because it is the most awkward hug ever. But I guess the dark lord does not get much time to practice his hugs.
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #47 on: 20 Jul 2011, 05:53 »

That and Mr. Felton looked reallly uncomfortable. 
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Re: It's finally ending, Harry
« Reply #48 on: 21 Jul 2011, 15:28 »

It was just such a pointless scene to throw in as well. It was funny, yeah, but it was like: ...why is he doing that? o.O
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« Reply #49 on: 22 Jul 2011, 10:03 »

Maybe the figured that them dragging a captured Neville before Voldemort and the subsequent slapping of a burning Sorting Hat onto Neville's head after Neville refusing to join.  With the drawing of the Sword and the slaying of Nagini might have been just a little OTT for some. 

But they'd have need a special spell to carry Neville's balls after he pulled that off.
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