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WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)

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dragontart:

--- Quote ---I mean, that's fine if they do, but a goal is something positive like doing well at work or writing a song. 
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Why? Of course you could also ask me "why not". And I don't know.

It's indeed true that I don't mind people simply having goals and ambitions, like I don't mind people painting their walls pink. That's something I consider everyone's own business. I do mind people who try to paint my walls pink and think of me as weird when I find pink annoying and won't let them.
And I do find pink annoying, so I am not highly comfortable in a pink room, as I won't be in company of people whose whole life revolves about goals and ambitions which tends to be obvious in anything they think, say and do.
And as far as my experience goes, people are never satisfied with only painting their own walls.

So Marten would be quite pleasant company for me when it comes to that. But that's about it, there are way too many other things he'd need to have or to not have to be interesting to date. Actually I think we don't even know much about Marten.

themacnut:
Welu, I think your boyfriend's got one up on Marten as far as passivity, he's at least taking steps toward his goals. When was the last time we even saw Marten so much as pick up his guitar and play something?

Hopefully we'll at least see that much sometime soon.

DSL:

--- Quote from: jwhouk on 02 Aug 2011, 15:59 ---The punchline, IMNSHO, isn't because Marten really doesn't have goals in life. It's because that is how he deals with uncomfortable situations.

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Face it, kids: Marten's MO in situations where he has to face "the real world" is either humor, snark or smart-assery.

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That's actually the trait about Marten that I find most unlikeable. His sense of humor shows up at the most inopportune times. And can come across as insensitive. (Then again, I was frequently accused of that in my twenties, and it's said we dislike in others that which makes us see ourselves). Reading the strip, though, I've often thought Jeph wrote an awfully tolerant bunch of friends for Marten.

jwhouk:
Some ink for the big guy (and he's right, they do look like some Godsmack cover band in the photo).

Blackjoker:

--- Quote from: DSL on 02 Aug 2011, 17:15 ---
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 02 Aug 2011, 15:59 ---The punchline, IMNSHO, isn't because Marten really doesn't have goals in life. It's because that is how he deals with uncomfortable situations.

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Face it, kids: Marten's MO in situations where he has to face "the real world" is either humor, snark or smart-assery.

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That's actually the trait about Marten that I find most unlikeable. His sense of humor shows up at the most inopportune times. And can come across as insensitive. (Then again, I was frequently accused of that in my twenties, and it's said we dislike in others that which makes us see ourselves). Reading the strip, though, I've often thought Jeph wrote an awfully tolerant bunch of friends for Marten.

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I kind of saw it more that Marten was awfully tolerant of them. Faye tended to repay kindness with physical abuse and confusion. Steve is someone who on their best day can be frustrating and on their worst day make you want to put a fist through a wall. Dora had severe insecurities and manifested them in a lack of trust for Marten and essentially choosing her neuroses over him, deciding that he wasn't worth getting her head cleared. Hannelore, while more subdued now, was rather...off in the beginning. I could also point out that most people would have thrown Pintsize out a window or had him reformatted if he behaved towards them like he seems to behave towards Marten.

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