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What was "THE MOMENT OF THE WEEK"?

Oh, I, uh, wasn't really looking.
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Marten Reed, Professional Indie Ogler.
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"Not really looking, eh?" "Figuratively speaking."
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I'm not mad at you, I just think it's funny.
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You're not the only one who has $#!+ they gotta figure out.
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Sweetie, your problem's simple
- 1 (1.4%)
What DO you want from your life?
- 3 (4.3%)
Cheeseburger and a haircut!
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Creepy Haidresser!
- 7 (10%)
Hundred foot tube lined with WHAT?
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Snip!
- 2 (2.9%)
What DO I want? EPIPHANY!
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Hannelore!
- 2 (2.9%)
Wait, how did I know you were gonna be in my apartment?
- 6 (8.6%)
Why AM I in your apartment?
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It's been forever since we played music!
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Amir: "Hey dudes. I was wonderin' if you'd ever come back."
- 8 (11.4%)
Shower? "I'M GOING HOME"
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #150 on: 03 Aug 2011, 05:17 »

That made me shudder. big time.
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« Reply #151 on: 03 Aug 2011, 05:24 »

"Thanks for the haircut ma'am, I'll be leaving now.  Any idea if the barbershop run by the WWII vet and seemingly populated by his cronies of 40 years is still open, he can finsh up the back before I go and drink that particular visual away with several of my friends...." 
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #152 on: 03 Aug 2011, 05:29 »

At least it wasn't Sweeney Todd.
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #153 on: 03 Aug 2011, 05:31 »

Lucky bastard. All my last haircutter wanted to talk about was how badly her last tanning session went.

This reminds me, though. Wonder what Hanners did with tbat blood sample?
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #154 on: 03 Aug 2011, 05:32 »

OK, my wife used to do hair - had to stop for several reasons, one of which was what she called the "emotional vampires" - the people who came and did nothing but talk about their personal problems every two weeks like clockwork.  Left her feeling drained and miserable half the time.  It was like they sought her out, because she's such a good listener.  

I can see this hairdresser using the hair tube and its creepout factor to get people to stop opening up to her - Marten dumps his life problem on her, and she makes sure he'll never  do it again!  

'course, you'll lose a lot of tips that way, but if it keeps the problem customers from coming back, its probably worth it!  


I imagine Wil has similar problems as a bartender - you need to be a people person in jobs like these, but you also need a very  thick skin!  
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #155 on: 03 Aug 2011, 05:44 »

So I registered just to ask: Does anyone else think this hairdresser looks creepily like Mrs. Frizzle?
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #156 on: 03 Aug 2011, 05:59 »

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I don't know what to say...
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #157 on: 03 Aug 2011, 06:11 »

Well, that was utterly creepy.

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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #158 on: 03 Aug 2011, 06:21 »

AmI the only one not creeped out?  By acknowledging she's building something creepy...that in turn makes it not that creepy.  It's just weird, and in the art world a lot of things are weird. It'd be creepy if she thought people would love crawling through it or was forcibly getting hair from people.  The only problem with this plan is her execution; she needs to be sweeping hair up, not individually collecting it.

I'm just upset that she interrupted Marten's chance at a breakthrough.  However, he did seem hesitant to do so anyway.
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #159 on: 03 Aug 2011, 06:22 »

@Corvid, best first post ever. She's a bit um, eccentric, like Ms. Frizzle as well.

I look forward to seeing where Jeph takes this arc. I'm guessing it will be a rather long one, so I'm not holding my breath for developments that may not come until next year (real time). I think I was impressed by Jeph's art more than the comic today though, but this probably has something to do with my renewed interest in photography giving me more of an eye for that sort of thing. I like new settings as well. It's always fun to see what he does with them.
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #160 on: 03 Aug 2011, 06:29 »

Am I the only one not creeped out?  By acknowledging she's building something creepy...that in turn makes it not that creepy.  It's just weird, and in the art world a lot of things are weird. 

I wasn't creeped out, but I have no hair...

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The only problem with this plan is her execution; she needs to be sweeping hair up, not individually collecting it.

The swept stuff has a lot of floor dirt in it.  The stuff on the cape on the other hand, has just been washed...
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #161 on: 03 Aug 2011, 06:33 »

AmI the only one not creeped out?  [...]
I'm not creeped out either, the whole idea is just weird to me.

For never mind the human hair - why would I want to crawl for 800 meters anyway ? I probably already did that exercise when I was a baby. I see no need to repeat this experience now.
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #162 on: 03 Aug 2011, 07:03 »

For never mind the human hair - why would I want to crawl for 800 meters anyway ?

It's not that long  :? Just around 30 m. Not that big of a deal.
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #163 on: 03 Aug 2011, 07:25 »

so creepy. cant stop shivering.
Yes, super-creepy human-hair-tube lady makes Hanners' covert blood sampling seem quite wholesome.
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #164 on: 03 Aug 2011, 07:57 »

Ah Artists.

I have a feeling we're going to see Marten get a cheeseburger next, and try to tell them what his dream is, only to hear what the waiter or chef's dream, or what have you. Maybe all this will turn to Marten yelling out "I don't have any dreams", leading to some inner-realization that because he's spent so long trying to help others and look out for others and please people like his ex Traci, like Dora, like Faye, Hanners, Steve, and basically stay emotionally the same, stunting his own growth so everyone else can have a shoulder to cry on, punch, burn, and verbally mock, so all he knows is passive-aggressive black humor.

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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #165 on: 03 Aug 2011, 08:05 »

Marten has a "dream", only it´s a stupid dream..

It was being a music journalist or blogger (just like in High Fidelity^^) if I remember correctly. Maybe that means he should run a record store.

I wonder what´s going on with his music. Making music makes me happy, and I bet that goes for old Martypants too.
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #166 on: 03 Aug 2011, 08:56 »

Marten could have done that when Dora asked to move in together-- but he chose Faye. I would not have handled that as well as Dora did. (I know I have my issues. Haha.) I know someone could argue that he just didn't want to move, or that he was just being a good friend...etc. However, I felt it was the completely wrong way to go about things. If he did not want to leave that apartment or was not ready to move in with Dora, he should have just said as much

Actually, he said as much about liking his present apartment, and it having more space, as he said about not wanting it to be hard for Faye:
1577: "But I like  this apartment!"
1578: "It's not that I don't want to move IN with you, it's just that this place has more room than yours"
1579: "I just really like this apartment!"
and in each case he said that before referring to Faye.  I suspect that in 1581 he could have been about to agree to move in with Dora, when she pre-empted him by agreeing the opposite.  It may have been a bad decision for them both, though.
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #167 on: 03 Aug 2011, 09:27 »

I wasn't creeped out, but I have no hair...
She didn't actually SAY that it was all going to be head hair. Creeped out yet?

I was impressed by Blackjoker's point about what happens when Marten tries to be assertive. In fact, are there any cases of him being successful at it, other than hitting someone with a frying pan and acquiring soup?
EDIT: and recruiting Hannelore for the band.
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #168 on: 03 Aug 2011, 09:32 »

At least it wasn't Sweeney Todd.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiqjNGB3FJg
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Anyhew...Jeph wasn't kidding when he said this one would be weird. So, is this a BLAM or a GSFfN?

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« Reply #169 on: 03 Aug 2011, 10:07 »

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That would be awesome!

Telling someone to "follow their dreams" is a losing proposition.  If they need to be told, they aren't ready for it:  they either don't know what they want to be (1/2 of Marten's problem) or they do know but don't have the guts to do it and fail (the other 1/2 of Martens' problem.)  This is the thing about dreams:  they're compelling.  A real dream is one you don't have any choice about following.  By that standard Marten doesn't have any dreams yet.  He gave up his guitar to follow his ex across the country, and that derailed him.  Maybe he'll get back on track, join a band and experience total failure or spectacular success:  either one would be better for him than just drifting.

Semi-relevant aside on creepy barbers:  in the '80's my regular barber was an ex-Nazi (born in 1920, Hitler Youth, the whole deal) who after the war served in the French Foreign Legion, was captured at Dien Bien Phu and was one of the 1/3 or so of the 10,000 prisoners captured by the Viet Minh who survived.  Nice old coot, born at the wrong time and systematically brainwashed into a monster who got to go to hell and repent of his sins while still alive...
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« Reply #170 on: 03 Aug 2011, 10:20 »

Then hopefully life won't throw things like this at him anymore.
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #171 on: 03 Aug 2011, 10:22 »

Today's strip was absolutely hilarious.

That is all.
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« Reply #172 on: 03 Aug 2011, 10:26 »

AmI the only one not creeped out?

I didn't find it creepy either...but then again, I LOVE LOVE LOVE installation art (the more bizarre, the better imho)

However, she should have probably asked her clients before stealing their hair...considering that some people could get really uncomfortable being a piece of art without consenting.....
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« Reply #173 on: 03 Aug 2011, 10:47 »

I wasn't creeped out, but I have no hair...
She didn't actually SAY that it was all going to be head hair. Creeped out yet?


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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #174 on: 03 Aug 2011, 11:00 »

Bet Marten's really wishing he had that faceful of boob right now. We never appreciate the good things while we have them.

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« Reply #175 on: 03 Aug 2011, 11:12 »

Raoullefere!  You're alive! 

It's only been what, about 6 months since you last posted?  At my age, when someone disappears for that long, I'm tempted to check the obituary pages...





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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #176 on: 03 Aug 2011, 11:35 »

I agree that Marten's passivity played a large part in Dora's breaking up with him. Honestly, most people have more than one reason for making a life changing decision. Her own insecurities were one-- but a lot of it was that Marten never did anything to REALLY show her that he wanted to be with her because he WANTED her, not just because she was there. Marten could have done that when Dora asked to move in together-- but he chose Faye. I would not have handled that as well as Dora did. (I know I have my issues. Haha.) I know someone could argue that he just didn't want to move, or that he was just being a good friend...etc. However, I felt it was the completely wrong way to go about things.

If he did not want to leave that apartment or was not ready to move in with Dora, he should have just said as much-- there was no reason to bring Faye into it at all. Dora was ready to take their relationship to the next level-- moving in and focusing on the development of the relationship as adults. Marten did not seem to be on the same page as her. This is a breaking point for many relationships. When one person is ready to progress as a couple and the other is not, it is very hard to stay in that relationship. At some point, you have to realize that the relationship is not going anywhere, and it would be best to end it.

I think Marten really liked her, but was he seriously considering a future with her? Dora is ready to settle down. Yes, she has issues to work through, but I think that would have been easier to do with someone who seemed to want the same thing out of the relationship. Knowing you want something more, but not being sure if your partner feels the same... Added to the fact that Dora is insecure to begin with. It is not a good combination.

I think Marten's passivity was part of what drew Dora to him in the first place -- since, as we found out later, Dora had dated "alpha goths", she may have wanted someone less . . . pushy.  I think they both hoped that their relationship would be The One, but instead it turned out to be The Next Lesson.  I disagree that Marten was specifically choosing Faye over Dora by not wanting to move, though.  Yes, he said he liked his apartment more, and yes, he said he didn't want to inconvenience Faye, but those sounded like rationalizations to me.  I think he just didn't want to change.  He liked his life, how it was and where it was.  Which of course does mean that he wasn't ready to move on to the next phase with Dora.  Granted, Dora may have jumped the gun a bit on wanting to move in as well -- sort of a "this is where we're supposed to be at this point in our relationship" combined with some optimism and impulsiveness -- but neither of them was really ready for the next phase.  I'm not even sure Dora is truly ready to settle down with someone now, but once she's spent some time working out some of her issues, she may become ready, and sooner than Marten.

I didn't find it creepy either...but then again, I LOVE LOVE LOVE installation art (the more bizarre, the better imho)

However, she should have probably asked her clients before stealing their hair...considering that some people could get really uncomfortable being a piece of art without consenting.....

I find the hair tunnel idea creepy, but not night-terror-inducing.  Of course, when one actually crawls through such a thing, there's no telling which direction the hair will be pointing and thus whether you'll be rubbing it the wrong way when shimmying through it, or how long all of it is (car wash anyone?), or which part of the body it's been taken from as Is It Cold pointed out, or how it will smell, or how well-attached it will be to the tube . . .  So, yeah.  I'll go with creepy.  YMMV.  And it's definitely rude of her not to ask her clients' permission to use their cut hair, though not illegal.
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #177 on: 03 Aug 2011, 13:17 »


I think Marten's passivity was part of what drew Dora to him in the first place -- since, as we found out later, Dora had dated "alpha goths", she may have wanted someone less . . . pushy.  

This. Marten was the opposite of alpha goth and, more importantly to Dora, anti-Sven. That likely played a role in her initial attraction. And the fact that Marten seemed to be at ease around attractive women. But I, too, think that Dora spilled some other truths about what was troubling her about Marten on her dinner date with Jim.

I started reading QC shortly after Dora moved in with Marten & Faye, so I don't know, but undoubtedly their respective reactions to the initial suggestion of cohabitation as well as to the chosen living arrangement were adequately dissected here at that time. No comment from me.

Hair? What's creepy about it? I had a haircut on Monday. As only may be 40% of my scalp is growing any, I figure I only need to get a haircut every ... two and half times the usual interval. I didn't see the lady dump the clippings to a basket though?

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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #178 on: 03 Aug 2011, 13:36 »

One visitor climbs into the hair tunnel and begins furiously jacking off, followed by the indefinite removal of the exhibit.
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #179 on: 03 Aug 2011, 13:57 »

OK, my wife used to do hair - had to stop for several reasons, one of which was what she called the "emotional vampires" - the people who came and did nothing but talk about their personal problems every two weeks like clockwork.  Left her feeling drained and miserable half the time.  It was like they sought her out, because she's such a good listener.  

Thank you for validating my choice to say as little as politeness allows to barbers/hairdressers/other grooming-related servicepeople.
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« Reply #180 on: 03 Aug 2011, 15:28 »

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm

Time to change Barbers I think Marten.
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #181 on: 03 Aug 2011, 15:32 »

Plenty of caption contest possibilities in this visit to the hair palace. Please please Panel 3 or even 4?
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #182 on: 03 Aug 2011, 15:58 »

I think Marten's passivity was part of what drew Dora to him in the first place -- since, as we found out later, Dora had dated "alpha goths", she may have wanted someone less . . . pushy.  
. . .  I think he just didn't want to change.  He liked his life, how it was and where it was.  Which of course does mean that he wasn't ready to move on to the next phase with Dora.  Granted, Dora may have jumped the gun a bit on wanting to move in as well -- sort of a "this is where we're supposed to be at this point in our relationship" combined with some optimism and impulsiveness...

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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #183 on: 03 Aug 2011, 16:50 »

i've decided that the hair dresser is disturbing reminiscent of Ms. Frizzle from the magic school bus
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #184 on: 03 Aug 2011, 16:55 »

Plenty of caption contest possibilities in this visit to the hair palace. Please please Panel 3 or even 4?

I was thinking that too. Definitely considering it.  :lol:

I'd like to hear Marten talk to Faye about this. We've heard this conversation with Dora before, but he doesn't seem to talk to Faye a lot about future plans. Is is because Faye herself is still in a bit of a rut, career-wise? Whatever the case, I'd like to see how that conversation would go.
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #185 on: 03 Aug 2011, 17:04 »

Actually, he said as much about liking his present apartment, and it having more space, as he said about not wanting it to be hard for Faye:
1577: "But I like  this apartment!"
1578: "It's not that I don't want to move IN with you, it's just that this place has more room than yours"
1579: "I just really like this apartment!"
and in each case he said that before referring to Faye.  I suspect that in 1581 he could have been about to agree to move in with Dora, when she pre-empted him by agreeing the opposite.  It may have been a bad decision for them both, though.


First of all, I really admire how you all always back up what you say with links to the specific comment. I've never seen forum members do this quite so well or as often as this forum. :)

I think you have a good point. A lot of it was that he didn't want to move-- I don't know if he is the type to handle change well. And it's not that he chose Faye over Dora TECHNICALLY. It's just that I don't think he considered how saying that would make Dora feel, considering her insecurities concerning him and Faye. I don't think that he considered how some of his actions would affect Dora, either. That is part of his awkward personality, I guess-- he never seems to have bad intentions, but he is not good at knowing the "right" things to say or do.
 
I should probably mention that I was in a similar situation as Dora, so I am definitely looking at this with a bias. I think I took parts of the comic a little too personally. Haha. That realism is what I like about the comic, though. It's nice to have something to laugh at-- but when an author can write something that gets under your skin because you RELATE to it, that's when you know he/she is doing a good job.



Is it weird if I kind of want to know what a giant tunnel made of hair would feel like?
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #186 on: 03 Aug 2011, 17:22 »

Marten's Life After Dora...

...will be the same as before.    - 9 (10.5%)
...except with more Pintsize hijinks.    - 1 (1.2%)
...will involve romance with a stranger.    - 2 (2.3%)
...or is that just "someone strange"?    - 3 (3.5%)
...will NOT involve the gal he just ogled.    - 11 (12.8%)
...WILL involve the gal he just ogled.    - 2 (2.3%)
...will involve Wil.    - 3 (3.5%)
...or Pizza Girl?    - 8 (9.3%)
...you know, you've never SEEN Pizza Girl & Hanners in the same place...    - 13 (15.1%)
...will feature coffee.    - 9 (10.5%)
...will feature drama.    - 19 (22.1%)
...will feature waffles.    - 6 (7%)

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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #187 on: 03 Aug 2011, 19:23 »

Grrr....the new poll has too many choices that I want to pick. I can't narrow it down to one choice. Damn you, jwhouk!
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #188 on: 03 Aug 2011, 19:28 »

It just occurred to me...  art-wise, creepy hairdresser girl may have been the original concept Jeph had for Hanner-stalker Clinton (who originally intended to have Clinton as female).
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« Reply #189 on: 03 Aug 2011, 20:40 »

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« Reply #190 on: 03 Aug 2011, 20:47 »

Ninja'd. 




Is this thing on? 
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #191 on: 03 Aug 2011, 21:24 »

That is the one, did not feel like digging through the tumblr for it when I posted earlier.  /highfive Carl-E & DSL

Just make female-Clinton's hair more curly (or "frizzy"), then hand her scissors and a plastic zip-lock baggie of art installation hair... :|
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #192 on: 03 Aug 2011, 21:28 »

If this hairdresser is related to Clinton (they kinda look like they could be), that would explain a bit.
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« Reply #193 on: 03 Aug 2011, 22:02 »

And be very, very frightening
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« Reply #194 on: 03 Aug 2011, 22:04 »

1983 - the year I turned 21

I keep forgetting we're the same age...

Frightening - isn't it?  :-D   ;)
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #195 on: 03 Aug 2011, 23:06 »

Oh my! Is like the Enigma of Amigara fault, except with hair XD

I don't really find it creepy but I would probably change my opinion if it existed...
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« Reply #196 on: 04 Aug 2011, 02:20 »

Am I the only one who thinks that Marten is about to ask Hanners on a date?
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #197 on: 04 Aug 2011, 02:23 »

Am I the only one who thinks that Marten is about to ask Hanners on a date?
Me too, i mean its crazy but honestly Hanners is awesome
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Re: WCDT 1-5 August 2011 (1981-85)
« Reply #198 on: 04 Aug 2011, 02:31 »

Sounds like somebody hasn't slept in a couple days...

Even though he looks even more like Dora now, I'm still enormously happy about Marty's haircut.  :-D
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« Reply #199 on: 04 Aug 2011, 02:32 »

Quote from: Hanners
Why am I in your apartment?

Cleaning, most probably.

The most obvious thing for him to ask her about is something to do with the band, but we'll see.
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