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WCDT: 2011-2015 (12-16 Sep 2011)
Spectreofwar:
I suppose I can consider myself lucky in that I was an introvert my entire childhood up until 17 when I joined the workforce full-time. After that, the world of being social was an irresistable force that I could never indulge in enough! I had a REALLy rought time all throughout that childhood with my peers, too, with broken trust, bullying and peer pressure*. None of them are excuse enough to not go out and just DO something.
If she wants a social life badly enough, she needs to just go get it. It really is that simple.
* - before anyone jumps in to compare what I might consider "rough" in those aspects, throughout elementary school I visited the hospital for possible broken bones, countless bruisings, a hockey stick slash to the face and at one point even having a portion of my face torn off from being dragged across asphalt. In highschool it was rough enough that I became suicidal to the point of needing an intervention of sorts.
Cornan:
--- Quote from: John_Knee on 16 Sep 2011, 05:16 ---
--- Quote from: Cornan ---And we see once again why Marigold doesn't have any friends except those she's been forced to make.
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That comment shows a complete understanding of what it is like to be introverted. Introverts don't seek out a large group of friends and the most introverted of people can make do with literately 1-2 close friends and a smallish group of associates that they know and will talk to but wouldn't in the traditional sense call friends. She (Marigold) doesn't have many friends because she hasn't tried to have a bigger group than Momo and Angus, with Hanners maybe joining that close friend status. Everyone else in her mind will be an extension of Angus and if Faye and Angus split up then there is no reason why she would otherwise seek people like Martin out. She may only continue to 'associate' with the rest of the characters of Coffee of Doom as long as Faye and Angus are together. If they did split up, she may still associate with the rest if Hanners joins her close friend group - in which case everyone else will become an extension of Hanners.
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So it looks like this has been fairly well addressed already but I wanted to toss in my .02 bucks:
You don't know me. I have a perfectly clear understanding of what introversion is like because I am an introvert. When I was younger it was enough of an issue that I was seeing a doctor and getting medication to try to help (didn't work. Went off it with doctor's support). I understand EXACTLY what it's like to be an introvert and how the introvert perspective works. What introversion does not justify is being a jackass to the people who you are close to. I dislike Marigold's actions not because she's introverted but because she's repeatedly been a jerk to people who care about her and who she claims to care about. She's an extremely selfish person (so far. people can change and I keep hoping for that arc for her, but so far no dice) and while she complains about her social situation she does nothing to address it even when given multiple opportunities.
In this instance Marigold is being less of an introvert and more someone with a persecution complex. I was actually right with her in this strip up until the last panel. I understand the fear of abandonment and isolation that can come with seeing your friends become more social*. That doesn't excuse her asking Momo for one thing and then rejecting it when it's offered. I know we're supposed to chuckle at the joke but I just felt insulted on Momo's behalf. Mari keeps being given opportunities for the kind of social life she claims to want but doesn't take them and instead tries to make her close friends feel guilty for offering those opportunities to her. That's not cool, it's not ok, and it's not excused by introversion.
In short: Being an introvert doesn't mean you get to be a jerk.
*In fact, I'm dealing with it IRL right now because my best friend for the past 6 years has a new girlfriend and I'm seeing him a LOT less. Am I being a bitch about it? Nope. I go hang out with the both of them when I'm invited and invite them both down to watch MST3K and stuff with me when I'm feeling lonely. Instead of pushing away my one friend I've added another because, guess what, his girlfriend is actually pretty awesome.
Also, the avatar title of "Not Quite a Lurker" is awesome.
jwhouk:
INFJ here. 'Nuff said.
Spectreofwar:
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 16 Sep 2011, 15:18 ---INFJ here. 'Nuff said.
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Exactly what I was in highschool.
Taken again now, I am currently ESFJ. People can change, if they want to. :)
DSL:
Thankfully (I think) my only exposure to Myers-Briggs was an SF novel by Michael Flynn called "The Wreck of the River of Stars." It's set aboard a falling-apart spaceship whose crew comprises one of each of the M-B personality types. How each crew member gets along (or doesn't) with the others contributes to a series of events that is pretty much the definition of what engineering-accident investigators call "cascading failure." Good story, but far from a happy ending.
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