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idontunderstand:

--- Quote from: raoullefere on 29 Sep 2011, 05:19 ---
--- Quote from: idontunderstand on 29 Sep 2011, 02:37 ---Poor Elliot. They want you or they don't.

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Or they want you but don't want you to know that because they think it's complicated and all will end in misery. Or they don't know how much they really do want you until someone else has you, and then it's Too Late until you get dumped, at which time they're in another relationship. Which, if they've since let it drop that they did want you at some point, they now are bent on demonstrating how much better this new hook-up is than yours and theirs could ever have been.

There are many, many variations, but these come immediately to mind for some dang reason. Love lives are rarely simple except for people like Pre-Faye Swen.

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Good point... I guess I just got to thinking of Elliott Smith (the song Say Yes) because of his name and the situation.

Still, you know. When it comes down to it, they're gonna say yes or they won't. And then you have to move on.

Black Sword:

--- Quote from: Akima on 28 Sep 2011, 17:34 ---
--- Quote from: Black Sword on 28 Sep 2011, 12:24 ---It'd be troubling if you suddenly were not confrontational.
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Why thank you!
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Don't forget the part about it being a sign of involuntary personnel change on a systemic basis!


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--- Quote ---If your automatic reaction to a choice of words is to put it through a filter about whether or not it's "offensive" rather than "descriptive" or "evocative," you really need to turn off the Politically Correct Decision Matrix.
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My reaction to writers' choices of words is: "what meaning, emotional tone etc. did they intend to convey?". My reaction to "tentacle" when used as a metaphor for influence is: "this writer regards the influence as malign". The dictionaries I consulted to check my initial reaction back me up on this. Every one, in supplying examples of this kind of use of "tentacle", offered such usages as "the tentacles of organized crime", "the tentacles of corruption", etc. The Oxford American goes so far as to give: "An insidious* spread of influence and control: the Party's tentacles reached into every nook and cranny of people's lives." People are entitled to their opinions, and entitled to express them, but also wholly responsible for what they say, and how they say it. Playing the "political correctness" card is a cop-out.

*My emphasis.



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I will observe that I used it in the simple definition of "something resembling a tentacle, esp in its ability to reach out or grasp," with an added connotation in context of its powerful ability to reel back in the object being grasped. Had my goal been to characterize it as insidious, then I would have added the adjective to bring that into focus and emphasize. As a matter of fact, all it would have taken for you to confirm negative intent from me would have been to ask if it was meant perjoratively, rather than assume so from the get-go.

I'll state the obvious, but the web has seen countless examples of miscommunications, misinterpreting tone, misreading messages or reading into messages to get things that were not there. You instantly taking offense over trivialities fits "politically correct" attitudes, so if you dislike the hat, do something about it rather than call it a cop-out.

Welu:

--- Quote from: snubnose on 29 Sep 2011, 07:06 ---
--- Quote from: Welu on 29 Sep 2011, 06:25 ---I'm also going to take this chance to say I loathe playing "the game".

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With WOMEN ?

Isnt that kind of ... being a spoilsport ?


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I am a straight woman. I find it just easier overall rather than playing hard-to-get or wondering when to call or freaking out because they haven't called. I got into my current relationship when I realized my boyfriend liked me but was too nervous to ask and was doing the, "So, what you doing tomorrow? You're free. Cool, I'm free too" hint thing but not working up the courage to just ask me to hang out so I asked him out. We're together near a year and a half now.

It might just be impatience but I also don't really like the feeling when I don't know where I stand with people, not just in a romantic sense. I'd rather just say to someone, "I like you and want to get to know you better." and if they say, "Yes", great, if they say, "No", I'll take the ego-hurt and move on.


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I was thinking of that when I was writing my earlier comment. :lol:

LoveJaneAusten:
What's the deal with every character from the Secret Bakery being astonishingly boring.

YourMaster:
Normally I wouldn't jump into a one on one Internet quarrel, but:

Black Sword, the word 'tentacle' is absolutely pejorative in implication, and if you didn't mean it pejoratively it's on you to fix that (by clarifying or apologizing or whatever), not on everybody else to assume you didn't mean what you said.

I'd argue that "but you must assume that everybody had a non-hostile intent even when they use hostile language and ask them politely whether they really mean what they say" is itself political correctness run amok.

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