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The unmentionable DAAAAAANG

Pintsize's coma

"Damn, girl!"

Mister gentleman

First he was all , and then he was , but soon he was , and finally he was

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Happy Arbor Day 2003!

[AnAverageWriter]

Rule #1 - do NOT talk about CAD.

There was a reason why I chose not to name it- I have no intention of "hating on" the general webcomic. I was making a point, utilizing an example that the vast majority of us know very well, to highlight something horribly inappropriate a webcomic author can to do their characters, something Jeph has far too much integrity to do.

My post was not a discussion about that site in general, but a particularly horrid instance where miscarriage was used "for laffs".

[pwhodges]

miscarriage was used "for laffs".

No it wasn't:

A miscarriage is definitely not a joke, and I have no intention of making light of it.

You can read the whole of his justification for it in the link I gave before, but he "doth protest too much", I suspect.

[Welu]

uuuuuuuuugggggghhhhhh MARTEEEN

sigh

son, I am disappoint

I came to the thread with thoughts and insights prepared to become a hopefully interesting comment but then I spent five minutes staring at this GIF.

_{"Gif" or "jif" pronunciation: Which do you say?}

[Yarin]

Jacques, you magnificent bastard, I read your webcomic!

you and he are worthy opponents woo tvtropes

[Hebes]

"Gif" or "jif" pronunciation: Which do you say?

I usually use the "gif" pronunciation. If you say it like "jif" people might think you're talking about Peanut Butter.

[pwhodges]

Or Jif lemon juice; or Jif cleaner (now called Cif in some markets, it seems).

But my answer to the question is "png".

[cesariojpn]

After he left her.

He made it maybe thirty feet before the spring was gone from his step.

With those legs?

[Yarin]

aww hugs poor marten

[idontunderstand]

I feel sorry for Marten's ankles, They can't breathe. No wonder the guy had to slow down his strut.

I can't believe I'm the only one to notice this comment. What the hell? Do ankles need to breathe? I mean like generally?

[AnAverageWriter]

No it wasn't:

Yes it was.

If you hand someone an orange and then tell them "this is not an orange", the thing you are handing that person is still an orange. Declaring it a plum or a pomegranate doth not make it so.

[pendrake]

For comic #2058...

1. Aw, poor Marten.  Apparrently the cement mixer truck of regret just poured a large load of quick-drying "I probably should not have" over his blooming flower garden of "woo!"  I figure we will find out, and work out, the specifics of Marten's loss of inertia for the remainder of this week.

2. On a brighter note: at least Padma wants to continue spending personal time with the nice indie boy.

3. And did the pair (do not think "couple" sounds correct for this...yet) drop off at The Secret Bakery?  The building does look like it (shutters closed), and probably would make sense for Padma's "baker's hours."

4. I do hope Marten & Padma part on good terms if/when she does eventually move back to California.  It does not have to be "happy" terms, but hopefully enough to walk away from each other with a "fare thee well" satisfaction (for both the characters and we readers).

5. I continue to try to steer clear of previous posts as we pass from choppy waters to stormy seas, and trying to avoid battle with undead post pirates or stir up giant tentacled forum moderators.

6. [Sean Connery voice]: Give me a .png, pwhodges...  One .png only, please.

[ink slinger]

Marten has always seemed an low-key comfort/convenience dresser even by male standards, so I'd have picked him as the "six-pack of cotton tighty-whities from Target" kind of guy. But previous postings in this thread have reminded me that Marten has been shown previously to be a boxers guy, so obviously my intuition was faulty.

Speaking from a male perspective, I would not call tighy-whities comfortable. Of course, I am but one man. YMMV.

[Mr_Rose]

Marten has always seemed an low-key comfort/convenience dresser even by male standards, so I'd have picked him as the "six-pack of cotton tighty-whities from Target" kind of guy. But previous postings in this thread have reminded me that Marten has been shown previously to be a boxers guy, so obviously my intuition was faulty.

Speaking from a male perspective, I would not call tighy-whities comfortable. Of course, I am but one man. YMMV.

You can get cheap six-packs of boxers too…and yeah, never once met a 'comfortable' pair of briefs.

[pwhodges]

load of quick-drying "I probably should not have" over his blooming flower garden of "woo!"

But the fact that it probably can't continue needn't be a reason to regret having done anything at all.

[TheEvilDog]

Marten has always seemed an low-key comfort/convenience dresser even by male standards, so I'd have picked him as the "six-pack of cotton tighty-whities from Target" kind of guy. But previous postings in this thread have reminded me that Marten has been shown previously to be a boxers guy, so obviously my intuition was faulty.

Speaking from a male perspective, I would not call tighy-whities comfortable. Of course, I am but one man. YMMV.

Yeah, gotta agree with you there. Briefs are an abomination against comfort.

[Kugai]

*Puts on pair of shoes*

[gprimr1]

Yeah, gotta agree with you there. Briefs are an abomination against comfort.

Couldn't disagree more.

[Carl-E]

I can't wear boxers.  I have thighs like tree trunks.  The legs of boxers bunch and ride up in any pair of pants I wear, even baggy carpenter jeans or sweats. 


So yeah, I wear briefs.  But NOT  tighty whities.  If they fit well, they're plenty comfy! 

[Mr. Doctor]

No it wasn't:

Yes it was.
If you hand someone an orange and then tell them "this is not an orange", the thing you are handing that person is still an orange. Declaring it a plum or a pomegranate doth not make it so.

Kind of a ridiculous way to compare things tbh. That arc was very shitty and unnecessary but I'm pretty sure the guy just wanted to "test" his characters and that if he could pull it off (he obviously couldn't). It wasn't meant for laughs but only as experimenting. You can have your own opinion on that though but that's all there is to it: an opinion. Specially considering no one (including the author) found it funny so there's no grounds for saying that it was supposed to be something to laugh at.

[TinPenguin]

I feel sorry for Marten's ankles, They can't breathe. No wonder the guy had to slow down his strut.

I can't believe I'm the only one to notice this comment. What the hell? Do ankles need to breathe? I mean like generally?

Note that the day before I was worrying about Padma's dress lookng "sad", and you might be able to tell I'm a guy who likes to personify.

[Fen]

Marten's sprint is just FAAAABULLLOUUS.

[westrim]

I'm confused; why are we talking about engineering programs? Can we get back to the webcomic please? The conversation about male underwear better be brief too, or I'll have to call this boxer I know.

I prefer to think that Marten is not sadfacing, just contemplating humping that fire hydrant furiously to demonstrate his dominance.

[CrowFairy]

These are all hard-earned lessons. As others have mentioned, just because you have romantic or sexual feeling for someone, that does NOT mean they're obligated to feel the same. Again, another hard-earned life lesson. And when you think about it, acting like you're someone's friend while harboring stronger feelings for them and wishing you were more than a friend is really rather deceptive and creepy. It's a fake friendship-better to let your feelings be known from the start and let the other person make an informed decision about how they want to proceed with you.

YES. THIS.

But Jeph certainly wouldn't do THAT to Marten and Padma. This isn't that OTHER webcomic... you know the one...

It bothers me a bit that you act like authors would never do horrible things to their characters. It's through horrible experiences that we learn what the characters are truly made of, who they really are. There are many books I've read that devastating things have happened to the characters, and you see them struggle through the pain. And they were brilliant. They delve into that part of ourselves most people are too afraid to think about. I find these stories incredibly compelling. For example, look at how Harry Potter dealt with the loss of Sirius. In the books, there is a lot of pain on his part, but you always find yourself rooting for him and telling yourself that you know he can make it through that tough time.

These characters are human, above all else. And bad things happen to humans all the time. Humans die. Humans get pregnant when they don't plan to. Humans make bad decisions. We are flawed. Yes, Marten used a condom, and that's great; I'm glad. But I honestly would be in for the ride if there was an unexpected pregnancy. It would be an interesting plotline, and I'd love to see how Jeph and the characters would handle such a problem.

I understand what you're saying. But webcomics don't always have to be funny every single strip. And I also understand that Jeph probably won't put such a heavy topic in QC, at least for right now, but I'd like it if we could all keep our minds open to the possibility of a character's actions having really negative consequences in that way. It would be really interesting to see how Marten would grow as a person and if Padma would stay or run for the hills.

[westrim]

Yes, Marten used a condom.

Did he? Where did we see the wrapper?

[Dr. ROFLPWN]

I'm sorry, it just...it just kind of fit

(I am also sorry for it being a shitty edit)

Poor dude. :O Don't worry Marty, Padma likes you!

[ElvisRevenge]

I have this weird feeling that Padma won't really appreciate this night as much as Marten, in retrospect.

I guess that´s what Marten is thinking in the last panelv

Or the idea of a berserker Elliot.

Please Elliot, don't berserk 'em!

[Carl-E]

Yes, Marten used a condom.

Did he? Where did we see the wrapper?

Fourth panel, upper right corner by the discarded bra.  I saw it fine on my laptop at home, but here at work it's ridiculously dark.  I can't make the monitor show the first letters, which are "LUB..."

Marten's in LUB??


 

[westrim]

Yes, Marten used a condom.

Did he? Where did we see the wrapper?

Fourth panel, upper right corner by the discarded bra.  I saw it fine on my laptop at home, but here at work it's ridiculously dark.  I can't make the monitor show the first letters, which are "LUB..."

"LUB" as in "LUBE". And that's a box, not a wrapper, but I'm being nitpicky. So maybe they avoided pregnancy by using the backdoor rather than wearing a raincoat?

[Carl-E]

Or as in LUBricated, and 3-packs and dozens still come in boxes, last I checked. 

Backdoor or not, I'm sure Marten's been raised safe, considering his mother's business. 

[westrim]

Or as in LUBricated, and 3-packs and dozens still come in boxes, last I checked.  

Lube is short for lubricated and I said we didn't see a wrapper.

[Akima]

Warning - while you were reading a new reply has been posted. You may wish to review your post. What? I only just opened the reply window!

That (2058) is one very nicely-drawn comic. The last four panels could be an object lesson in facial-expression and body-language to express emotion in a comic. There's not a trace of "cut 'n' paste face". But Marten looks super-skinny. And wears very, very tight jeans.

[raoullefere]

Yes, that 'strut' panel made me think of any number of Archie Andrews (of Archie comics, for those dwelling under rocks), only Archie is drawn much more robustly. Marten's even thinner than Jughead.



Stop with the judging.

[FunkyTuba]

I can't make the monitor show the first letters, which are "LUB..."
Marten's in LUB??

... while dancing to LUBstep

LUB.LUB.LUB.LUB.LUB.LUB.LUB.LUB

[Kugai]

*sigh*

There are times that a certain Mr. Marten Reed can be his own worst enemy.

*GibbsSmacks Marty*

[Dust]

I blame the fire hydrant.. it clearly gave him an Evil Eye.

[StevenC]

Or as in LUBricated, and 3-packs and dozens still come in boxes, last I checked.  

Lube is short for lubricated and I said we didn't see a wrapper.

So? There's no reason to assume they didn't use one if there is a box lying around. With the same mindset you could say "There's a wrapper but until I see the jizzed-in condom, I say they used it as a balloon."

[westrim]

So? There's no reason to assume they didn't use one if there is a box lying around.

A box for lubricant.  

[StevenC]

Or LUBricated condoms as everyone pointed out.

[westrim]

Or LUBricated condoms as everyone pointed out.

Since it's at the bottom of the box in big letters, that would be a damn long box. Also, akronnick =/= 'everyone.'

Wait, why am I writing like I'm annoyed about this? Ceasing now.

[StevenC]

Then

"Brand X Condoms
  -Lubricated- " ?

[Carl-E]

No, not brand -X-.  They tend to burst....

[pwhodges]

A box for lubricant.  

No - you can see part of the opening and the side flap, which is long and narrow.  Entirely characteristic, though I can't identify the brand (being in the wrong continent!).

[sha'mad conde]

Before he gets too mopy, Martin needs to do the thing.

[Sorflakne]

I never realized how skinny Marten is.

Someone get the poor guy a hamburger!

[Carl-E]

Or a burrito...

[St.Clair]

"What's wrong, Charlie Brown?"

[Is it cold in here?]

The last four panels could be an object lesson in facial-expression and body-language to express emotion in a comic. There's not a trace of "cut 'n' paste face".

Jeph said once that he's not particularly good at facial expressions. I think he is.

[Rusty]

Martins legs are seriously creepin me out. Wheres the muscle mass? how do they support him?!

[akronnick]

Toon physics.

[Method of Madness]

This isn't that OTHER webcomic... you know the one...

Which one?

Ctl+Alt+Del (aka CAD) <DEL>

Rule #1 - do NOT talk about CAD.

Quality/tastefulness aside, Marten knocking Padma up would be completely different, since Ethan and Lilah were engaged when she got pregnant.