Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 2056-2060; Nov. 14-18, 2011
Skewbrow:
Agree with Matheyus about the context of Padma's remark to Elliot.
And the term some poster used to describe Padma... Not funny. Not cool at all. Not a shred of evidence in support of using that term. I mean, the fleshlight incident brought Pintsize down to all fours, but that is... something much lower. If you utter that term at a bar, the discussion will continue outside.
We have very few clues about what's going on Padma's mind. She may have given a couple of hints about being interested in Marten. Those may have been lost in translation. She is about to leave behind her life of the past couple years minimum (how long does it take to work your way to be the day shift manager? I dunno?). Not voluntarily - out of sense of duty. We can debate, whether her telling Marten about her pending departure will absolve her of all responsibility to Marten's feelings or not, but give her some slack, will you.
Kugai:
Just so long as Marten doesn't get The Black Spot after Elliot finds out.
Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Akima:
--- Quote from: Paranoid on 17 Nov 2011, 11:48 ---Okay, while I agree stoutfiles does get carried away with his accusations sometimes, the point he's trying to make is looking sharper and sharper all the time. Let's face it, this does not paint Padma in a good light. According to Elliot, she specifically said she doesn't want to get involved with anyone before she left. So what does she do? Hook up with Marten for a one-night stand, without first making sure he's comfortable with a one-night stand. And as it turns out he isn't.
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More woman-blaming? Did not Padma explicitly tell Marten that she was leaving town in the immediate future? Yes she did. Did she give even a hint of looking for a long-term relationship? No she didn't. Just why are you daubing the (presumably scarlet) paint only on Padma? If Marten isn't comfortable with a one-night-stand (or at least a short-term, friends-with-benefits type relationship), does he not have some responsibility here? He could have turned down the chance of sex, but instead happily grabbed at it, and was plainly very satisfied. His later moping is his responsibility, not Padma's.
--- Quote ---I have to point out that she set up the situation, not Marten. She invited him dancing, and given how much Marten whined about not being able to dance I expect that he tried to opt out but, just like with the camping trip earlier, she wouldn't take no for an answer. And now she'll probably move back to California without ever facing the consequences of how she led Marten on.
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Poor helpless Marten. He might be an adult man, but he has no responsibility for his own actions; it's all on Padma. All this "leading him on" occurred after she told him she was leaving town. After she leaves, Marten will have to face the consequences of his own choices.
Near Lurker:
...seriously, folks, it's one one-night stand. I mean, "town bicycle"? The hell? She doesn't seem to know Dora, and if she were the "town bicycle," she'd know him through Sven. Argue with that!
(...don't actually argue with that.)
Although it does reflect badly on Marten... if Padma went to the party specifically intending not to sleep with him, got drunk, and did... that's... kinda bad. (Or, more likely, she was lying to spare Elliot's feelings.)
Fen:
--- Quote from: Paranoid on 17 Nov 2011, 11:48 ---Okay, while I agree stoutfiles does get carried away with his accusations sometimes, the point he's trying to make is looking sharper and sharper all the time. Let's face it, this does not paint Padma in a good light. According to Elliot, she specifically said she doesn't want to get involved with anyone before she left. So what does she do? Hook up with Marten for a one-night stand, without first making sure he's comfortable with a one-night stand. And as it turns out he isn't.
Now, there is a chance that the drinking got the better of Padma, but again I have to point out that she set up the situation, not Marten. She invited him dancing, and given how much Marten whined about not being able to dance I expect that he tried to opt out but, just like with the camping trip earlier, she wouldn't take no for an answer. And now she'll probably move back to California without ever facing the consequences of how she led Marten on.
EDIT: There's also a chance she changed her mind after her talk with Elliot. We'll have to see I guess. If so I hope she didn't do that while drunk...
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Oh dear.
"Not getting involved with anyone" can mean many things. It can mean "not dating seriously", it can mean "not do anything at all", it can mean "bang everyone around because goddamnit all the hot guys live in this city". It varies. Just because you know you're leaving town in a while doesn't mean you have to stay celibate till then. It can be something you say to someone to give them a nice let-down, like "I'm sorry, I'm not planning on getting involved with anyone" instead of saying "Dude. No." As straightforward as Padma can be, since Elliott had just confessed to her, it would have been horribly inappropriate to say anything BUT that (who the hell suggests hookups like that, anyway?). "Oh yes, now that you mention it he is pretty hot" would have broken the poor boy's heart even more.
Padma went dancing to have fun. That thing people like to do, especially when a few months of agony are ahead(because caring for a sick relative is not going to be the fun of her life). She called Marten over because he seemed like a fun guy. After that, she decided that sex with Marten would also be fun. This is not "setting up", this is "going with the flow". Though I am aware that some people do go out precisely to pick up girls, most hookups happen because they felt right at the time. Unless one party is so drunk that they are incapacitated(and neither of them are), that's OK.
What consequences? She showed the boy a good time; the fact that he is unable to comprehend that simple situation denotes his lack of maturity, not her lack of responsibility.
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