Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT 2056-2060; Nov. 14-18, 2011
Carl-E:
I'd like to remind people that this ... exchange of bodily fluids was entered into under the influence of alcohol. Under the influence of which most people are not able to make the best judgements.
Padma may have been serious when she told Elliot that she didn't want to get involved with someone, but then got lost in the moment while under he influence.
Marten may well have realized that getting involved with someone leaving wouldn't be good for him emotionally, but then... well, you get the idea.
Then there's the reaction Angus had in the Marigold incident. One part of him was going "WOO!", but he was able to stifle it.
Padma and Marten were not... physical contact can be discombobulating, at the very least. Give someone a passionate kiss, then tell me what I just said.
Go ahead, I'll wait.
See?
Throg:
--- Quote from: Near Lurker on 17 Nov 2011, 14:34 ---...seriously, folks, it's one one-night stand. I mean, "town bicycle"? The hell? She doesn't seem to know Dora, and if she were the "town bicycle," she'd know him through Sven. Argue with that!
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Actually, that's an extremely good point. If anyone deserves the "town bicycle" monicker, it's Sven. There's been absolutely no hint of Padma's past sexual history; to call her out based on one hookup is just flinging the whole archaic 'oh-the-WOMAN-is-the-slut, she-TEMPTED-me' attitude around.
AnAverageWriter:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 17 Nov 2011, 11:32 ---"repeated expression of unacceptable sexist views was the main, but not the sole, basis. I don't believe there was any intent to troll"
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Really?
Really?
You would ban someone for merely having a point of view that differs from the norm? That surprises me, Pwhodges.
I hold views on certain topics that differ from the norm around here but I never would intentionally use them to be disruptive- am I to be banned as well?
Overkillengine:
+1 to "If Marten could have just not slept with her if it was so bad for him later."
Men can actually disobey their little head when they want to bad enough. Crazy thought, I know.
She dropped enough hints about not being around for a relationship that to be anymore clear would take a notary public and a couple reams of paper- he chose to proceed anyways. Not her fault. If he knew he wasn't going to get all he wanted out of the exchange, he should have moved on. Doing so saves a lot of heartache and wasted effort.
The only regret he should really have is possibly hurting Elliot's feelings if he finds out; that poor doofus is still going through that silly "Nice Guy" stage that a lot of us get browbeat into us before we learn better.
As far as comparing Padma to Sven:
No.
Sven back before his reform was a classic sleaze, which means I doubt he let something like honesty get in the way of him getting laid. Padma was about as honest as you can get with being so blunt as to be deliberately cruel. Vast world of difference.
EnglishCrunch:
Hi, long time reader, first time poster. Actually, I lurked for a couple days before I signed up too. This built up and just... uh, here:
Ok, so Padma-hate is weird and uncalled for. She seems like a nice lady and not nearly as self-aware as some of the other characters. Jeph trying to recreate his Marigold success with another character whose mental state is structured very differently from most of his female characters, I guess. It's sort of his thing in my mind, letting characters be "themselves" without serving a direct plot function unless they grow into it.
What's really unsettling though is that it seems to translate to a purely gender-motivated thing. Let's be clear, "Slut" is not a gender-specific slur, and as pointed out certainly can be used on guys like Sven with decent accuracy. I've certainly called men and women sluts, both in jest and in seriousness. (Yeah, I'm a judgmental prick, and that's my cross to bear.) If the people who believe Padma is being too easy are making that call because they hate women, I'm not seeing it. It seems to be rooted not in her gender or double standards but in the fact they naturally sympathize with our lovable protagonist Marten, and not the newer character they're less invested in. If Faye had sex with a guy who was leaving town right now, made no promises on either side and then she was left hanging? I'd wager it would be the same people rallying to Faye's side.
Let's not make accusations of sexism, or take the word slut off the table by claiming its discriminatory. Let's also not get too serious about what fictional characters do or do not deserve.
So... yeah. Hi.
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