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WCDT January 9-13, 2012 (2096-2100)
Harlequin:
Frankly, it's ok Marten acted like an ass in my mind. Good on him. She put him through hell because she was scared. Now her guilt doesn't get to be absolved by good guy Marten. Maybe she'll learn the lesson that she can't treat people like this anymore and learn to be more responsible with other people's feelings (hopefully enough to overcome her own fears). On the other hand, she may just become even more of a user. Either way, it's not Marten's problem anymore and her feelings were never his responsibility (especially given her disregard of any he might have had). "The Bigger Man" is typically synonymous with "Doormat" in any given situation.
Again, I think his response is perfectly formed given the situation. She has already shown that it is acceptable to avoid and ignore and do without explanation. She doesn't deserve any more than she gives and, frankly, she didn't deserve him answering her call at all. If Marten really wanted to be a real vindictive, passive aggressive ass and to writhe in his own misery, he could've just not answered and left her in the dark. That way, she can know what it's like to not know when you want to. You know, suffer some *real* consequences. Marten may have been an asshole, but at least now she has a better idea of how he actually feels about her and the situation. If there's a next time, Marten may be able to actually verbalize his own feelings then. For now though, this was a way better start than just saying "it's ok, I understand" over and over again and spending any more of your life knowing that people can treat you however they want and you'll just take it for the sake of some "ideal" that erases your own valid feelings.
AnAverageWriter:
--- Quote from: Napoleon_Blownapart on 12 Jan 2012, 02:59 ---You're right, Marten's not a robot
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Quiet, you'll spoil the BIG REVELATION, wherein Jeph blows the lid off the comic by revealing that Marten is, in fact, an advanced AI created in secret by Hanner's parents and Marten's mom, programmed for angsty emotional self destruction!
He just doesn't know it yet.
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Why yes, I haven't slept in several days. How could you tell? :psyduck:
Noff:
Ok, my thoughts on this week in general:
Why is Marten the big villain here again? Generally intentionally blowing someone off without explanation for a week is considered to be pretty rude no matter what your relationship, and in this situation I think he's right to assume she was doing that because she lacked the resolve to actually tell him they were through and she was moving back home. I don't accept the explanation that because he consented to them hooking up he also consented to being treated badly.
But on the other hand, I don't really understand how Marten not stalking someone he's sleeping with is passive aggressive either, so I think these past few comics have been a bit off. If they're actually in a committed relationship going to her work might make more sense, but the consensus seems to be that he knew it was just a fling before he left, which makes following her around and demanding she speak to him a pretty bad idea. Lying and saying he's busy now certainly is passive aggressive, but if it is just a fling he's under no obligation to run to her side now when she's been treating him poorly and intentionally putting him on the backburner for a while.
Soulsynger:
--- Quote from: Harlequin on 12 Jan 2012, 04:40 ---[ ... ] She put him through hell because she was scared. [ ... ]
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Oh yeah, he seems REALLY broken up about it.
Even IF it was their last week and he had hoped to spend it moaning and breathing heavily with a gorgeous woman wrapped around him (sry for explicit)... he is not entitled to this level of jack-assery. ESPECIALLY not when Padma was simply caught in an emotional impasse... ~~
--- Quote from: Noff on 12 Jan 2012, 04:52 ---[ ... ]
But on the other hand, I don't really understand how Marten not stalking someone he's sleeping with is passive aggressive either, so I think these past few comics have been a bit off. If they're actually in a committed relationship going to her work might make more sense, but the consensus seems to be that he knew it was just a fling before he left, which makes following her around and demanding she speak to him a pretty bad idea. Lying and saying he's busy now certainly is passive aggressive, but if it is just a fling he's under no obligation to run to her side now when she's been treating him poorly and intentionally putting him on the backburner for a while.
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First griefing about her not calling him, her then calling him and him rejecting her final invitation should be the definition of passive aggressive. oO
He tries to make a point that neither he nor she has any clue about because neither of them is sure about their feelings toward the other. That is either escapism, projection or passive aggressivity.
Noff:
--- Quote from: Soulsynger on 12 Jan 2012, 05:01 ---
First griefing about her not calling him, her then calling him and him rejecting her final invitation should be the definition of passive aggressive. oO
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Obviously he's being passive aggressive now and I agreed with that in my post, but the gang was accusing him of being passive aggressive even earlier, when he was waiting for her to actually return his calls. According to them, it was passive aggressive to not corner her at work, which is pretty crazy in my mind. If you just started hooking up with someone you don't barge into their workplace to demand to know why they're not returning your calls. That is just not kosher in reality.
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