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WCDT January 9-13, 2012 (2096-2100)
WAYF:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 12 Jan 2012, 02:19 ---A particular reason that I continue to be impressed by Jeph is the way that he describes realistic people, puts them in realistic situations, and has them make a realistic mess of them.
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Thank you.
Thank you so, so much.
They both messed up. Padma distanced herself from Marten for a lot longer than was reasonable, and Marten decided to give her the cold shoulder on an occasion when they could otherwise have parted on relatively good terms. They both messed up.
Yes, it was stupid of them both, Padma because she specifically stayed longer to spend more time with Marten, Marten because his hypocritical actions have now made him no better than her where before he was trying to be reasonable about it. They therefore share the blame for the situation they are in now.
But it is a silly idea for us to try and judge which one of them has the bigger share of the blame because, at the end of the day, they both messed up.
jwhouk:
...This is gonna be one of those weeks for the WCDT, isn't it?
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NotsoAverageJoe:
--- Quote from: Noff on 12 Jan 2012, 04:52 ---Ok, my thoughts on this week in general:
Why is Marten the big villain here again? Generally intentionally blowing someone off without explanation for a week is considered to be pretty rude no matter what your relationship, and in this situation I think he's right to assume she was doing that because she lacked the resolve to actually tell him they were through and she was moving back home. I don't accept the explanation that because he consented to them hooking up he also consented to being treated badly.
But on the other hand, I don't really understand how Marten not stalking someone he's sleeping with is passive aggressive either, so I think these past few comics have been a bit off. If they're actually in a committed relationship going to her work might make more sense, but the consensus seems to be that he knew it was just a fling before he left, which makes following her around and demanding she speak to him a pretty bad idea. Lying and saying he's busy now certainly is passive aggressive, but if it is just a fling he's under no obligation to run to her side now when she's been treating him poorly and intentionally putting him on the backburner for a while.
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its all just so out of character for him.
someone like whats his name, his buddy that did the CIA thing once upon a time, i could see not getting the same reaction if he had acted the same way in the same situation.
marten is just expected to roll over and take it each and every time, by both the characters and us, the readers. making any sort of stand, especially one like this that has such emotional ramifications for multiple people, takes everyone out of their comfort zone.
i say good on him. he's grown up alot since his days of moping over his crush on Faye. Padma's behavior was completely unacceptable, he doesn't know her well enough to be absolutely sure of her reasons behind it, and there is nothing that would indicate she wouldn't pull the same kind of thing again. could he have been more gentle about it? sure... but why? you get what you pay for, and this is what padma earned through her callousness. maybe it was unintentional on her part, but that's irrelevant. when you're in a relationship you can't be so self absorbed that doing something like she did without considering the other person involved.
it only proves the relationship had nothing going for it except a nice time in the sack, and that's not enough to justify taking the risk of future emotional turmoil.
nobody wants to be used and thrown away, and if i were in marten's shoes, that's exactly how i would've felt... and today is exactly how i would've responded. so yea, once again i say, good on him.
Soulsynger:
I dont know why, but reading your post I just had one of those random bad thoughts that Padma might've been with someone else over that week... and now I am contemplating as to who it might have been.
The obvious answer being the least probable methinks. °O
jwhouk:
...are you meaning to suggest, dear sir, that she decided to jump Elliot's bones over this past week?
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