Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT January 9-13, 2012 (2096-2100)
Soulsynger:
--- Quote from: Overkillengine on 11 Jan 2012, 02:13 ---Clarification of "automatic fail": hyperbolic phrasing to illustrate and emphasize something being of such an improbable magnitude that using a 100% probability of failure descriptor results in statistically negligible variance between the actual and stated probability. :-P
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And as smart as that may sound, I still don't like generalizations. ^^
Also I am unsure whether you should use that phrasing in this context at all. As I said, there is no way to determine the variance between the stated and actual probability because there is not enough information available to determine the "actual" probability.
But this is going to be about semantics at some point now, I'll stop. °O
Harlequin:
Registered just because this was a triggering comic for waking up at 3:33am >_>
I've been in a much more invested relationship with someone who led me along *hard* and then just one day completely changed into someone else and stopped making an effort to communicate with me at all. During our relationship, they told that they loved me and insisted that I trust them and I did and continued to much longer than anyone should have. I kept excusing their behavior with whatever I could think of and continued to send messages of love and support because they said they liked getting them. So I learned a couple of things from that relationship:
1. Don't trust people... especially those who ask for it.
2. How to meter out emotional investment.
As for Padma, Marten should just walk away. As a previous person pointed out, this is a digital age (and in this universe, AI in the form of anthro-pcs is a reality). There is no excuse whatsoever for not communicating. The only thing remotely excusable is "she's going through a hard time", but if that means that she can't take 30 seconds out of a week to type that out and hit "send", then is that really someone you want to invest in anyway?
Marten's doing this right. He's put forth just the right amount of effort to open communication with a person who has cut it off. Now, I think he has every right to be mad and to show it. Even more so if she shows back up. It should even be encouraged, I think, because then he's setting healthy boundaries on how he is going to allow others to treat him. If this is supposed to be a random hookup and a new(ish) potential friend with benefits, he doesn't owe her the emotional support that would be expected in a more serious, committed relationship. If this is any deeper than that, she doesn't get to treat him like an emotional tampon for her own benefit while leaving him used up without an explanation.
She crazy, Marten. Don't look back.
Vista:
--- Quote from: idontunderstand on 11 Jan 2012, 01:34 ---Actually I'm wondering if there's a difference between being aggressively passive and passive aggressive. "Passive aggressive" doesn't seem to describe Marten too well.
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Yes. Dora is wrong. Faye is wrong if she's being literal about Marten being aggressive and is implying the aggression is aimed towards someone other than himself. Marten may feel passive aggressive at the moment--and talking about this stuff to the two ladies might be an act of passive aggression--but his other actions don't seem to be dictated by that mood. Sometimes polite people have codes of conduct that avoid interference by a present emotional temperature.
Passively aggressive: Marten sticking to his default mode with the intention of proving something to or about Padma.
Martenly passive: Marten sticking to his default mode with the intention of not letting overthinking result in making a mistake regarding Padma.
Overkillengine:
--- Quote from: Soulsynger on 11 Jan 2012, 02:25 ---
--- Quote from: Overkillengine on 11 Jan 2012, 02:13 ---Clarification of "automatic fail": hyperbolic phrasing to illustrate and emphasize something being of such an improbable magnitude that using a 100% probability of failure descriptor results in statistically negligible variance between the actual and stated probability. :-P
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And as smart as that may sound, I still don't like generalizations. ^^
Also I am unsure whether you should use that phrasing in this context at all. As I said, there is no way to determine the variance between the stated and actual probability because there is not enough information available to determine the "actual" probability.
But this is going to be about semantics at some point now, I'll stop. °O
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Fair 'nuff. I can definitely agree that we have far differing assessments of probability on this, most likely to to differing past experiences. I was just clarifying that *I* meant. :)
--- Quote from: Harlequin on 11 Jan 2012, 02:27 ---Registered just because this was a triggering comic for waking up at 3:33am >_>
I've been in a much more invested relationship with someone who led me along *hard* and then just one day completely changed into someone else and stopped making an effort to communicate with me at all. During our relationship, they told that they loved me and insisted that I trust them and I did and continued to much longer than anyone should have. I kept excusing their behavior with whatever I could think of and continued to send messages of love and support because they said they liked getting them. So I learned a couple of things from that relationship:
1. Don't trust people... especially those who ask for it.
2. How to meter out emotional investment.
As for Padma, Marten should just walk away. As a previous person pointed out, this is a digital age (and in this universe, AI in the form of anthro-pcs is a reality). There is no excuse whatsoever for not communicating. The only thing remotely excusable is "she's going through a hard time", but if that means that she can't take 30 seconds out of a week to type that out and hit "send", then is that really someone you want to invest in anyway?
Marten's doing this right. He's put forth just the right amount of effort to open communication with a person who has cut it off. Now, I think he has every right to be mad and to show it. Even more so if she shows back up. It should even be encouraged, I think, because then he's setting healthy boundaries on how he is going to allow others to treat him. If this is supposed to be a random hookup and a new(ish) potential friend with benefits, he doesn't owe her the emotional support that would be expected in a more serious, committed relationship. If this is any deeper than that, she doesn't get to treat him like an emotional tampon for her own benefit while leaving him used up without an explanation.
She crazy, Marten. Don't look back.
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THIS! :psyduck:
Too often many of us get taught to either take all the crap that gets shoved our way and ask for more; or turn into soulless user a-holes. There is actually a middle ground where one can be a decent person but still enforce respect.
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: Overkillengine on 11 Jan 2012, 02:43 ---There is actually a middle ground where one can be a decent person but still enforce respect.
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"Enforce respect"? That's not quite how it works, you know.
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