Topic: WCDT: 2171-2175 (22-27 April 2012) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread (Read 49016 times)

jwhouk · « **on:** 22 Apr 2012, 05:43 »

Another week in Northampton. Discuss.

Skewbrow · « **Reply #1 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 07:28 »

I voted for Winslow for a change. We already learned the reason why Hannelore took a sample of Marten's blood. It's time for Winslow to explain this.

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #2 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 07:40 »

Winslow is too nice. He might be overcompensating for something. He's an Apple product: they "just work" until they don't, and after that the problems are very difficult to solve.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #3 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 07:41 »

It's University of Florida (UF), not Florida University (FU), so Padma transferring there is unlikely.

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #4 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 07:43 »

Maximum suspense and drama would be if Padma doesn't reply, and that would be in character.

DSL · « **Reply #5 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 10:41 »

So how did Hannelore get a sample from Marigold? A sample of what?

Or was the question answered in Skewbrow's link? Something to do with gas chromatography, perhaps?

jwhouk · « **Reply #6 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 15:46 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 22 Apr 2012, 07:41

It's University of Florida (UF), not Florida University (FU), so Padma transferring there is unlikely.

...Please tell me you were deadpanning that response.

FunkyTuba · « **Reply #7 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 19:00 »

Quote from: jwhouk on 22 Apr 2012, 15:46

Quote from: Method of Madness on 22 Apr 2012, 07:41
It's University of Florida (UF), not Florida University (FU), so Padma transferring there is unlikely.
...Please tell me you were deadpanning that response.

He was just being an instigator

Method of Madness · « **Reply #8 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 19:03 »

Ha, well played.

jwhouk · « **Reply #9 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 19:37 »

Two minutes for punning.

DrBear · « **Reply #10 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 19:39 »

That was a Seminole moment in punning

(equal time for FSU)

Method of Madness · « **Reply #11 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 19:40 »

State of Florida University (StFU)

akronnick · « **Reply #12 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 20:58 »

I love* Dora but she can be a real bitch sometimes!

*In a way that is totally appropriate for a fan to love a fictional character, of course.**

**What?

Near Lurker · « **Reply #13 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 21:02 »

I've had this guy too many times. Hell, I'm not 100% convinced I haven't had the actual inspiration for this guy. Dora's going to be dead in the street before this is over, Faye, Sven, and Marten lying next to her.

jwhouk · « **Reply #14 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 21:02 »

Comic.

Heh, Dora "Harpy" Bianchi.

Seriously - I'm not sure the therapist is doing Dora any service in presenting that to her. But... if it gets her to think about herself, maybe it'll get us down the road a bit.

RyanW1019 · « **Reply #15 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 21:07 »

Ooh, comic! Now I can try out my new profile pic. Hope I edited everything right...

WAYF · « **Reply #16 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 21:20 »

Gee Dora, you did ask...
Just because someone has problems in those areas doesn't mean they are completely like that all the time, which is the message Dora seems to be taking from it. Of course she's not all bad, but they're not having all these sessions to talk about her good parts.

jwhouk · « **Reply #17 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 21:43 »

Jeph's already getting criticism on Twitter over this - wrongfully, I might add.

Look, I'm not sure something like what her therapist is saying to Dora is "proper" in APA circles, but she did ask in that last strip (as WAYF points out), and he's probably got a pretty good idea about what's happening with Dora. She can give him attitude, but that's probably just therapeutic resistance on her part.

And any doofus that wants to think Dora can't cope with her breakup with Marten is just a complete idiot. Dora had these issues before she broke up with Marten. Hell, she probably had them before she met Marten.

St.Clair · « **Reply #18 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 22:23 »

Quote from: jwhouk on 22 Apr 2012, 21:43

Hell, she probably had them before she met Marten.

Guaranteed.

Near Lurker · « **Reply #19 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 22:31 »

Of course, however he depicted a psychiatrist, he'd get people saying that that psychiatrist was objectively wrong, because they're all objectively wrong to someone's objective knowledge. Like the old cliché about certain books, psychiatry is the practice of multiple-choice.

CompSarge · « **Reply #20 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 22:43 »

Poor Jeph just cannot catch a break, can he?

I thought that he portrayed the psychiatrist perfectly, and nothing that Dora said in response to his diagnosis was OOC. It sounds to me like he hit the nail right on the head, and Dora (like any human being being criticized) doesn't want to accept the truth.

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #21 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 22:47 »

Maybe he should have guided her to the realization on her own, but maybe that wouldn't have worked (or hadn't worked), and we know from before that therapists in the QC world use techniques that would be, uh, unorthodox in our world.

jwhouk · « **Reply #22 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 23:04 »

But of course.

"Which eye is your dominant one? I usually like to go in through the other eye socket."

Kugai · « **Reply #23 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 23:05 »

i'dve thought Dora would make a better Gargoyle

cvcharger · « **Reply #24 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 23:20 »

Quote from: DSL on 22 Apr 2012, 10:41

So how did Hannelore get a sample from Marigold? A sample of what?

Or was the question answered in Skewbrow's link? Something to do with gas chromatography, perhaps?

My question is why was he giving the sample to Momo-tan?

Fen · « **Reply #25 on:** 22 Apr 2012, 23:44 »

Why would he not give her a straight-out out-front diagnose and "guide her towards it"? This isn't CBT or serious psych stuff, it's just regular therapy for a regular woman who has some issues. It's the way people do this, unless they're out to unnecessarily increase the number of therapy sessions so as to make more cash.

~~cesariojpn~~ · « **Reply #26 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 01:54 »

Quote from: Kugai on 22 Apr 2012, 23:05

i'dve thought Dora would make a better Gargoyle

Don't they have one already, and her name is Demona?

TinPenguin · « **Reply #27 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 02:35 »

Quote from: cvcharger on 22 Apr 2012, 23:20

Quote from: DSL on 22 Apr 2012, 10:41
So how did Hannelore get a sample from Marigold? A sample of what?

Or was the question answered in Skewbrow's link? Something to do with gas chromatography, perhaps?
My question is why was he giving the sample to Momo-tan?

Winslow and Momo are just the mules. Hannelore's gotta keep her hands clean.

Akima · « **Reply #28 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 02:57 »

Quote from: TinPenguin on 23 Apr 2012, 02:35

Hannelore's gotta keep her hands clean.

In every sense.

Skewbrow · « **Reply #29 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 03:00 »

Quote from: cvcharger on 22 Apr 2012, 23:20

Quote from: DSL on 22 Apr 2012, 10:41
So how did Hannelore get a sample from Marigold? A sample of what?

Or was the question answered in Skewbrow's link? Something to do with gas chromatography, perhaps?
My question is why was he giving the sample to Momo-tan?

That is a mystery. Marigold didn't seem to notice the spilled sample on her sofa, so she probably was not behind it. If it was Hannelore's idea to get a sample from Marigold, then we would have seen Momo giving the sample to Winslow. Something else is behind this. Something. Something sinister??

Welu · « **Reply #30 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 03:29 »

The idea he's saying it straight to her now because she hasn't been guided to it like he might be trying to do is possible considering how Dora reacted to her first therapy session.

VonKleist · « **Reply #31 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 03:48 »

Quote from: Welu on 23 Apr 2012, 03:29

The idea he's saying it straight to her now because she hasn't been guided to it like he might be trying to do is possible considering how Dora reacted to her first therapy session.

Yar, that´s what I thought too.
Due to excessive Obliviousness he just went for slighty more in-your-face approach.

Mr. Doctor · « **Reply #32 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 03:49 »

Woa, I'm glad I can't watch the people bitching about this strip.

+ Agree with Welu.

Indicible · « **Reply #33 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 04:32 »

So, her therapist is called Phineus? It will take him more than eighty days to get all her issues sorted...
And I am utterly nonplussed at the earlier puns.

Milesb · « **Reply #34 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 05:04 »

I hope Dora doesn't quit, or try to quit her therapy due to this. Faye will get medieval on her ass.

Border Reiver · « **Reply #35 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 05:42 »

And now Dora leaves the office to fine out that the next patient is ....

Winslow.

FunkyTuba · « **Reply #36 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 05:55 »

Quote from: VonKleist on 23 Apr 2012, 03:48

Quote from: Welu on 23 Apr 2012, 03:29
The idea he's saying it straight to her now because she hasn't been guided to it like he might be trying to do is possible considering how Dora reacted to her first therapy session.

Yar, that´s what I thought too.
Due to excessive Obliviousness he just went for slighty more in-your-face approach.

I'm one more in the "my intuitive approach wasn't working so I'll have to do some exposition" camp. I think we'd do well to remember that this scene is about Dora, not her therapist

techkid · « **Reply #37 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 06:07 »

Quote from: CompSarge on 22 Apr 2012, 22:43

Poor Jeph just cannot catch a break, can he? I thought that he portrayed the psychiatrist perfectly, and nothing that Dora said in response to his diagnosis was OOC. It sounds to me like he hit the nail right on the head, and Dora (like any human being being criticized) doesn't want to accept the truth.

The thing that the Twitterers (whichever ones are bitching and moaning) have to get their minds around is that QC is not ENTIRELY based on real world events and practices. As a dedicated storyteller, Jeph will go for "plausible" so that it makes sense to us, but as a dedicated webcomic artist, would also give it a bit of an edge to keep us interested in the story.

Like when we were discussing last week's WCDT, the overall sentiment was "the therapist will say what he thinks, then get Dora to think about what he just said". With Dora's "DON'T YOU LEAVE ME HANGING", he gave her the quick wrap-up of what he wants Dora to explore. Dora will still have to find the answers, he's just given her a hint as to what she's supposed to be looking for.

I don't see a problem with that, but then I'm not a therapist (probably more in need of therapy than anything else).

Mr. Doctor · « **Reply #38 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 06:20 »

^ Basically, those people don't know how to read comics.

Is it cold in here? · « **Reply #39 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 07:57 »

Yes, sometimes it's almost as if it weren't a record of events but instead was a story told with various tools including exposition.

The therapist was also right. Dora is insecure. One way to handle that is to seek control. Everything about that diagnosis fits what we've seen of Dora since her first appearance

DSL · « **Reply #40 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 09:59 »

RE: Tweeting twits -- I only saw the one, Erebus something or other, who later claimed he was trying to make a joke but ran into the 140-character wall. Whatever. Learn to edit, pal.
That said, even if Erebus-whatever's tweet was meant to be serious (whatever) and even if I agreed with it (I don't) -- it doesn't even logically follow from the comic.

Not that you need me to say it, but carry on, Jeph.

Carl-E · « **Reply #41 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 11:11 »

Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 23 Apr 2012, 07:57

Dora is insecure.

Thank you. One of the best comics ever, and definitely enlightening.

Also why I never listen to any of my cats.

~~Schmorgluck~~ · « **Reply #42 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 12:34 »

Quote from: DSL on 23 Apr 2012, 09:59

RE: Tweeting twits -- I only saw the one, Erebus something or other, who later claimed he was trying to make a joke but ran into the 140-character wall. Whatever. Learn to edit, pal.
That said, even if Erebus-whatever's tweet was meant to be serious (whatever) and even if I agreed with it (I don't) -- it doesn't even logically follow from the comic.

"I just think the whole 'girl can't cope with the breakup and needs therapy but he's totally fine' schtik is insensitive."
I totally fail do see how it could even remotely be the basis for a joke. I say it shows a total lack of basic reading skills since, as you said, it has absolutely nothing to do with anything happening or having happened in the comic.

FunkyTuba · « **Reply #43 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 15:15 »

It looks like that twitter account (and the guy's comic) were recently created (1 month, 2 months, respectively)... I wouldn't be surprised if he made that comment simply to garner some attention, since it obviously didn't take into account Dora's history/the greater context of the comic/etc/whathaveyou/moob/owls.

While I'd support new webcomics generally, taking a potshot at a veteran like this seems like behavior not to be encouraged. IOW this is probably a case of "don't feed the troll"

If his comment was sincere, then he'd do well to stop trying to teach Jeph to suck eggs

jwhouk · « **Reply #44 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 18:23 »

What other fallout are we going to see now that we're back on earth?

Momo is gonna need a hard reset after her Holopony incident... 4 (6.7%)
Pintsize and Station become friends! (impending doom sound) 5 (8.3%)
Winslow reveals a deep, dark secret... 5 (8.3%)
More Therapy Issues with Dora (and Sven!) 18 (30%)
Faye and Angus consider moving in together! 2 (3.3%)
Marten gets a reply to his e-mail... an "FU" reply. 8 (13.3%)
Steve has somehow prevented Cosette from burning down his apartment building. 4 (6.7%)
The new baker-barista at The Secret Bakery finally appears! 7 (11.7%)
Spathe Ham - The Rock Opera premieres at Smif College! 2 (3.3%)
Whatever it is - it's gonna be HILARIOUS! 5 (8.3%)

Total Members Voted: 60

cvcharger · « **Reply #45 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 19:04 »

So, Pintsize and Station becoming friends. What's the worst that could happen?
They'll probably just trade porn, get drunk, and wake up in virtual Mexico. Then after that... Uh, all hope for humanity is lost.

Omega Entity · « **Reply #46 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 20:41 »

COMIC!

Method of Madness · « **Reply #47 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 21:07 »

I like the unpleasantly surprised Dora in panel 2.

RyanW1019 · « **Reply #48 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 21:11 »

Okay, I'm calling panel 3 sadface-Dora as the most D'awww-inducing cute/pitiful we've seen her in the entire comic. Hell, possibly even in the whole comic, barring a few of Hannelore's (obviously) or perhaps some of Faye's at her darker moments.

Note: If you don't agree with me, make sure you noticed her eyebrows turning up at the inside corners; without that detail she just looks grumpy.

SomeCanadianWeirdo · « **Reply #49 on:** 23 Apr 2012, 21:18 »

Dora's face looks subtly different here to me. Another style shift in the offing?

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