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WCDT: 2286-90 (1-5 October 2012) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
idontunderstand:
I wonder if Marigold still talks to that dude she almost nailed in space!
Toe:
--- Quote from: Schmorgluck on 05 Oct 2012, 10:00 --- seriously, Marigold could use some kind of makeover. If it's not aimed at mainstream "beauty", and involves clothes she'd actually enjoy wearing
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Bustin' out a corset more often would be a good start...
Hybredmoon:
Marigold fanservice. God does answer prayers.
Is it cold in here?:
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--- Quote from: Madmartigan on 05 Oct 2012, 07:25 ---Clearly, you need to be reading more conservative and thusly, boring comics if this hurts your sensibilities.
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Actually, I'd rather read QC thanks. It's a good comic.
Honestly though I'd prefer it if we could have a mature discussion about why Faye thinks it's okay to hit Angus (or, more interestingly, why no-one appears to think that this is noteworthy behaviour). I mean seriously, try my thought experiment and tell me that wouldn't make you uncomfortable to see in the comic.
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Welcome, new person!
You had no way of knowing this, and it's not a rules thing, but that issue has become an Oh No Not That Again discussion. The points that come up every time, in case you were wondering, are It's Just A Cartoon, It's Just A Smack, But She Left A Bruise On Marten, But He Never Asked Her To Stop, But He Shouldn't Have To, I Smack My Friends And Vice Versa, and several others I don't have the energy to recall.
Perspective: Faye is not a normative character and Jeph has said he would not like her in real life.
DNR:
--- Quote from: Madmartigan on 05 Oct 2012, 07:25 ---
--- Quote from: eschatonic on 05 Oct 2012, 07:13 ---
--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 05 Oct 2012, 06:42 ---Also, Eschatonic, come on. No need to go there.
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Not sure what you mean by this. Does pointing it out make you uncomfortable?
Let's imagine for a second that Steve had walked past, Faye had looked, and Angus had hit her in response. That cool with you?
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Clearly, you need to be reading more conservative and thusly, boring comics if this hurts your sensibilities.
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That's not really addressing their question, though, is it? They, essentially, asked: would you be fine--enjoying a mostly light-hearted and humour-based comic where-in a male character back-handed his girlfriend seemingly for the sake of comedy? Well socially-ingrained gender double-standards don't make things interesting or controversial, they make things lame and cliche. An edgy, non-conservative, comic, would be one in which this event happens--and then depicts how accept this social norm is real, painful, and unfair--(I appreciate, we don't know how this event will be dealt with). As it stands, the presence of female-on-male violence is pretty socially and artistically conservative--though, I understand you may be using the word 'conservative' as to mean: a conservative comic wouldn't have any violence.
I also appreciate that some comedy is based on looking at the dark underbelly of existence: the Bill Hicks, Frankie Boyles, etc -- their humour is based on announcing twisted things, seeming twisted themselves, and allowing audiences to vicariously be entertained by the bleaker shades of life. To an extent, such comedians even allow us address such dark topics--as, without them first being joked about, they'd be left as 'unmentionable'. Yet, I don't think you could argue that this comic represents that--I don't think anyone's going to think: 'Huh, yea, it's kinda weird that we consider female-on-male violence more-so acceptable'. At risk of being unfair to QC's audience, I think most will think: 'Haha! He got smacked!'. Therewith, this comic isn't pushing any button, it's not highlighting a weird facet of real-life, isn't not being darkly comic, it's just playing a social cliche for laughs---and I find that unfair, uncomfortable, and sad.
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 05 Oct 2012, 07:19 ---IT'S A COMIC STRIP.
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And? You'll need to expand your argument, really. Any form of art: comics, webcomics, music videos, films, prose, youtube vlogs, are encoded with ideologies. Similarly, as they are consumed by audiences, they interact with hegemony. In other words, comics are both created with embedded view-points, standards, etc--and these view-points are present to audiences; whom decide if they are right, wrong, happy, sad, funny, dark, hopeful, despondent, etc--via emotional and thoughtful reaction. Therewith, it's really not enough to say: 'it's not real,; therefore, don't complain'. Consider why you find what's contained in the comic entertaining. I have considered why I find it uncomfortable--and my thoughts regarding this are in my above post.
(English isn't my primary language. Apologies for typos).
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