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There oughta be a law!
BeoPuppy:
--- Quote from: Carl-E on 05 Jan 2013, 09:19 ---I can see them... marching in formation... twirling those wrenches in beautiful, horrible patterns as the populace flee before them...
And on each arm, the black lugwrench in a white circle on a red armband...
Kinda like this;
[...]
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Very wrong, very fucking funny.
Barmymoo:
There ought to be a law that makes it illegal to leave an unoccupied building lit up like a Christmas tree. If we're serious about reducing carbon emissions, why not invest in subsidies for motion-sensitive lighting, and make a target (say, for instance, 2020) by which point all commercial and state buildings must have installed them so that lights which aren't being used turn off after, perhaps, two hours.
Papersatan:
Is this not common in the UK?
I think it has been common here for a long time, as a cost savings measure more than to be 'green'.
Most classrooms I have been in (high school and college) have lights that go off if you stop moving for 30 min (annoying when you are trying to read). The lights in the hallway at my current school do this too. Most library stacks have lights on timers (though for the protection of the books more than for energy savings) I think most offices do this too. My image of someone walking into a large office at night is the lights flickering on just before them as they walk. Actually, my mother used to complain about the lights going off on her when she worked late at the office, because the sensor could not 'see' into her cubicle. Even the lights in the freezer section of my local grocery store are motion sensitive, so when the store is pretty empty (3 am) they light up for you as you walk down the aisle.
The only place I really see lights on when no one is there is in stores where they leave one set of dim lights on when the store is closed, but I was always under the impression that was to make it easier for security to keep an eye on things.
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: Barmymoo on 05 Jan 2013, 12:45 ---There ought to be a law that makes it illegal to leave an unoccupied building lit up like a Christmas tree.
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They will argue that if they can be considered to contribute to security, then they are being used...
In related news, last month I replaced lights in my house which consumed 650W with lights consuming 93W and giving somewhat higher light levels. They are 13 of the very latest LED downlighters, and the first I have found that I am comfortable to live with (not even the ones demonstrated to me the previous month were acceptable). Mind you, they cost £390 + VAT, roughly three times the cost of the lights they replaced - but as well as the savings on power in the long term, there is no bulb replacement cost to factor in either. There is another similarly lit room that I will do when I can spare the cash - maybe later this year.
Carl-E:
I did something similar out back, where we leave two floodlights and the yellow porch light on through the night for safety and security. When compact flourescent's came into use I replaced the frequently-burning out floodlights (no fixture is completely weatherproof) with cfl equivalents taking 260 watts down to 59. And I haven't had to replace the bulbs yet...
The only downside is that, in cold weather (like now) it can take a half hour or more for them to warm up completely and cast full light. When it's below 0 F (-17 C), they never really reach full brightness, but they get close enough!
We have a few chandeliers however that won't accept new lightbulbs. Well, they will, but they look like hell. But I've been replacing damn near everything else with the cfl's for a few years now.
Including the edison lamp from the 20's that was in the coal room when we moved in. You had to screw/unscrew it to turn it on and off. It had sat there, half unscrewed for about 40 years (since the gas furnace had been installed).
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