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WCDT: 2323-2327 (19-23 November 2012) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread

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Emperor Norton:

--- Quote from: Oglokoog on 19 Nov 2012, 17:48 ---To avoid outing her as trans, maybe?

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How would them being twins out her as trans?

LovelyAngel:

--- Quote from: Zingoleb on 19 Nov 2012, 10:54 ---It's made me happy to see so many other trans* people posting in this thread. Just warm the very cockles of my heart.

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*smiles* *waves*

Today's comic certainly brought a lot of transfolk out of the woodwork. We should have a party or sumthin'. Maybe a Questionable Gender Party.  :lol:

Oglokoog:

--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 19 Nov 2012, 17:49 ---
--- Quote from: Oglokoog on 19 Nov 2012, 17:48 ---To avoid outing her as trans, maybe?

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How would them being twins out her as trans?

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Because they look identical (obviously, stylized art, but still). Of course, there are dizygotic twins (i.e. not identical) but it still seems to me like it's easier to just claim they're not twins at all. And seriously - you don't find their insistence that they're not twins the least bit fishy?
I'm not saying they are twins, just that the possibility is there until Jeph confirms it outside of the comic (which he already might have, for all I know).

TheEvilDog:

--- Quote from: Oglokoog on 19 Nov 2012, 17:35 ---Has Jeph confirmed it outside of the comic? Because the possibility that they actually are twins and only say they're not is still there if he hasn't.

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I would like to point people to Occam's Razor. The simplest solution is often the correct one. In this instance, the solution here comes straight from the horse's mouth, both from Clinton and Claire.. Why would Claire state that she was three years old than her brother? If they were twins, than surely this little white lie would make her look foolish.

Siblings don't have to be twins in order to look quite similar. Strong familial traits can create the appearance of siblings being twins, despite an age gap of several years. What people tend to focus on are the eyes, the nose and the jawline, they proceed to fill in the rest of the face without really paying attention to it. If we look at Claire and Clinton now, we can see there are some masculine traits in Claire's face, such as the slightly larger nose, the chin. We see a family resembelance, not proof that they are twins.

Some siblings look a like, some look completely different. Its as easy as that. There is no conspiracy of them really being twins to cover up Claire being trans.

Emperor Norton:

--- Quote from: Oglokoog on 19 Nov 2012, 18:00 ---Because they look identical (obviously, stylized art, but still). Of course, there are dizygotic twins (i.e. not identical) but it still seems to me like it's easier to just claim they're not twins at all. And seriously - you don't find their insistence that they're not twins the least bit fishy?
I'm not saying they are twins, just that the possibility is there until Jeph confirms it outside of the comic (which he already might have, for all I know).

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Its also a possibility that Marten is really a martian, I mean, Hey, Jeph hasn't stated that he isn't!, but I consider it highly unlikely. (and this requires even less stretching because Marten has never claimed he isn't either (that I remember))

The whole twin thing just sounds like two siblings who look very similar who are tired of being called twins.

Lying about their ages is just a weird thing to do. Let's say for arguments sake that you are right.

Either

A) She is lying about her own age and is really 21, and if so, amazing job getting to grad school that young. And most people who manage something like that are very PROUD of doing that, and are not likely to want to lie and say they are older.

or

B) She is lying about her brothers age, and I'm sorry, I wouldn't agree to claiming I'm 3 years younger than I am just to cover someones paranoia.

or

C) She is lying about BOTH Of their ages, and I think we all agree this is the most absurd option.

Either way, this continued charade would require one of them to not be able to celebrate their birthdays at the appropriate time, and all on the OFF chance that someone would go "hey these two twins look the same, but are opposite genders, ever think they might have BOTH been assigned as male at birth". Some siblings look remarkably alike, some twins of opposite gender look very similar. They do come from the same genetic stock after all.

The idea that they are actually twins and are lying about it is such a stretch of any form of logic. Its just patently absurd to consider.

(Also, go back through their interactions. Claire reads VERY MUCH like the elder sibling in their interactions.)

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