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WCDT: 2392-2396 (25 February- 1 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
cesariojpn:
--- Quote from: Barmymoo on 24 Feb 2013, 15:17 ---"Trans" isn't a noun, you're missing the word "woman" in that sentence.
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Okay, this is kinda getting on my nerves abit.
I can't say "She-Male" cause it's derogatory/insulting/misogynist/sexist/I used it wrong/whatever.
I can't say "Crossdresser/Trap" cause it's derogatory/insulting/misogynist/sexist/I used it wrong/whatever.
I can't say "Trans/Transexual/Transvestite/TS" cause it's derogatory/insulting/misogynist/sexist/I used it wrong/whatever.
I can't say "Gender Fluid" cause it's derogatory/insulting/misogynist/sexist/I used it wrong/whatever.
I can't even say "Woman/Girl/Madam/Miss/Mrs./Hostess/Mistress/(Insert female pronoun here)" without getting some grief about it!!
Honestly, try and use the "right word," you get grief about it no matter what you do!! Can anyone make up their minds already?
Barmymoo:
I'm assuming that you weren't around for the extensive and protracted debate about precisely this topic, or you would know that "woman" is absolutely the correct term, unless for some reason it is relevant that the woman you are talking about is transgendered, in which case the term is trans woman, or perhaps transwoman. I would say exactly the same thing if you had said "pass me that blue" instead of "pass me that blue book".
westrim:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 25 Feb 2013, 01:30 ---OK, now I see it. And I guess it's official - I'm too boring for this forum and should resign.
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You're never too old for a comic strip about 20 somethings.
--- Quote from: cesariojpn on 25 Feb 2013, 02:20 ---Honestly, try and use the "right word," you get grief about it no matter what you do!! Can anyone make up their minds already?
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This one suggests the words "one" "it" and "they." Guaranteed to get on every native English speakers nerves without being actually offensive to anyone (except those offended having the same terminology applied to humans as to robots, but who cares about them yet?)
--- Quote from: Barmymoo on 25 Feb 2013, 02:25 ---I'm assuming that you weren't around for the extensive and protracted debate about precisely this topic, or you would know that "woman" is absolutely the correct term, unless for some reason it is relevant that the woman you are talking about is transgendered, in which case the term is trans woman, or perhaps transwoman. I would say exactly the same thing if you had said "pass me that blue" instead of "pass me that blue book".
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What if it was orange? Expecting everyone to be privy to every discussion or have them at recall is unrealistic, and you could have easily sent him a PM explaining as much instead of making it a public issue. And since I didn't notice that discussion, I'll deliver my opinion that 'trans' is a noun, both in the original Latin and as a colloquial term for any person that has transitioned genders.
Soulsynger:
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I try to avoid that subject whenever I can. Regardless of how interesting I think it is. :-D
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: cesariojpn on 25 Feb 2013, 02:20 ---Honestly, try and use the "right word," you get grief about it no matter what you do!! Can anyone make up their minds already?
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Trans (or trans*) is used as an adjective, not a noun, is all - otherwise you are doing fine, I think. I would adjust the opposite way from May, by suggesting just "trans" rather than "a trans" in your sentence above.
However, gender and sexual terminology can be difficult to cope with. I was brought up to call a polite woman a lady - but if I call my wife a lady she gets quite angry. But we still call the women's toilet "the ladies'" without trouble. The idea is always to avoid terminology that carries an implication beyond the mere facts - a level of judgement, if you like - but the trouble is that different people see different judgements in the various words, and in some cases these are incompatible so there may be no completely neutral way to speak. If your neutrality is visible in general, then problems of this sort can be overcome. Of course, the worst thing is that a lot of people, sadly, actively wish not to be neutral when speaking of these things...
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