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WCDT: 2392-2396 (25 February- 1 March, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Black Sword:
Intransigent fellow that I am, I think I'll continue using whatever terms spring to mind and ignore the resultant screeches. Too much political correctness and niceties, so call a spade a spade and damn the rest. (was not around for the debate, does not intend to be "educated" about it either)
now that I've done my querulous bit... good Lord I am glad I am from a normal family. Marten's would leave me traumatized. More so than I already am.
Valdís:
--- Quote from: Black Sword on 25 Feb 2013, 06:35 ---Intransigent fellow that I am, I think I'll continue using whatever terms spring to mind and ignore the resultant screeches. Too much political correctness and niceties, so call a spade a spade and damn the rest. (was not around for the debate, does not intend to be "educated" about it either)
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Right.. Because calling an Indonesian woman a Chinaman is totally just avoiding "Political correctness". Man, descriptive terms are oppressive, what happened to the good old days when one could just say "freak" and be done with it?
de_la_Nae:
You know, this might not be obvious to people that don't browse some of the other sections of this forum obsessively (i.e. me), but you do know this isn't an abstract issue, some of the people whose names are being discussed are right here.
I mean we're not friends or anything, BSword, but we've been playing games together. What are you trying to say that I am?
Now this whole thing was started by a minor, commonly-used mistake. Hell it's one I've made. And goodness knows that the language regarding being Trans* has been a mutable, difficult thing to wrangle. I don't think anyone's really trying to jump down anyone's throat here. I'm not quite sure where some of the apparent anger is coming from. A word was used slightly improperly, and there is a little cultural and emotional baggage that goes with that word, so someone told someone why in this context that's a difficult usage.
I mean, hell, it's not like we're discussing the finer points of acceptable times to call someone a 'nigga'. Well...maybe a tiny bit, actually, if that gives any understanding on this end at least. Not *nearly* as much, but a little.
pwhodges:
I think it's time to put a damper on this discussion of language, which is straying beyond the actual point that started it.
The forum rules require civility and politeness, and this covers the use of appropriate language in sensitive cases. The subject of talking about trans* people is well covered in a couple of threads in the Discuss sub-forum, and has been aired a number of times here as well; the Chatter sub-forum also has threads that have touched on other sexual and gender terminology.
There is no reason not to try to get it right; but it's also necessary that mistakes made in good faith will be tolerated, and gently corrected, if appropriate (and equally, that the correction is accepted and taken to heart), rather than used as a jumping-off point for criticism and argument.
Soulsynger:
--- Quote from: GarandMarine on 25 Feb 2013, 05:39 ---[ ... ]
All things considered it might be pretty amazing that Martin has the spine he has and manages healthy emotional relationships, not to mention sexual relationships that don't involve a pound of chocolate chip pancake batter, an aerial restraint system and a trampoline.
...that last bit actually sounds kinda fun... idea for next date night me thinks.
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... OH DEAR GOD my mind's eye
(edit: also, I'd go on that date with you, regardless of your gender. I mean, seriously, I wouldn't care the tiniest bit what you are or what you wish to be designated as, just to see you smile the ensuing hilarity of what you described. :-D)
--- Quote from: de_la_Nae on 25 Feb 2013, 07:12 ---[ ... ] Hell it's one I've made.
[ ... ] I mean, hell, [ ... ]
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While we're on the topic of bad words. *angrily shakes his cane in one hand and grips his inhailer ever so slightly tighter*
How could you!
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