Topic: Detective Comics Cinematic Universe (formerly Man of Steel) (Read 187806 times)

Thrillho · « **Reply #250 on:** 12 Aug 2014, 00:52 »

Then you're out of your mind. Origins is a million times worse than X3. Apart from anything else it shits all over the continuity of the previous few films too.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #251 on:** 12 Aug 2014, 04:27 »

Yeah, you're right. I think it's more I expected Origins to be bad but I had high hopes for X3 (since X2 was so good).

Thrillho · « **Reply #252 on:** 12 Aug 2014, 04:45 »

Expectations can make a huge difference. I suspect the whole reason I found Movie 43 to be okay was that I expected it to be the worst thing I'd ever seen.

Edguy · « **Reply #253 on:** 15 Oct 2014, 15:15 »

So, lots of stuff happening. Flash has been announced and cast, featuring not the guy from the TV shows. It's also set to come out in 2018, but he'll probably be in the JL movie before that?! For those curious, the one who'll portray (presumably) Barry Allen is Ezra Miller, the gay dude in Perks of Being a Wallflower. Great actor, not my first thought for a superhero movie tho.

They also possibly revealed some stuff about Wonder Woman's origins.

Thrillho · « **Reply #254 on:** 16 Oct 2014, 00:00 »

Not a single thing announced about the DC movies has made me remotely excited.

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #255 on:** 16 Oct 2014, 07:02 »

Usually for me the opposite really. I heard that they were thinking of doing a Legion of Superheroes movie and my first, second and third reactions were 'Oh dear deities please no.. don't ruin the Legion too.' All of their movies and tv shows of late seem determined to just suck all the joy and fun out of their comics characters of late, with the possible exception of the Flash tv show. The jury is still out on that.. it's darker than the source material but not 'omg soul crushing bottomless pit of humorless eternal darkness' levels like they seem determined to do with their IPs.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #256 on:** 16 Oct 2014, 20:36 »

I really quite like Arrow, it got better near the end of season 1. I enjoy Flash so far, too.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #257 on:** 28 Oct 2014, 09:54 »

In really, really, really awful casting news, rumor has it that Jaden Smith may be cast as Virgil Hawkins

BenRG · « **Reply #258 on:** 28 Oct 2014, 10:04 »

Quote from: Neko_Ali on 16 Oct 2014, 07:02

Usually for me the opposite really. I heard that they were thinking of doing a Legion of Superheroes movie and my first, second and third reactions were 'Oh dear deities please no.. don't ruin the Legion too.' All of their movies and tv shows of late seem determined to just suck all the joy and fun out of their comics characters of late...

It's odd. The MCU has invariably been a positive and enjoyable experience that has had excellent story-telling, characterisation and remain (and this is important) fun. For some reason the emergent DCU seems dark, negative, depressing and almost Millerite in its general disdain for the concept of heroism as a positive force.

What is more, it is genuinely not fun. Because of this, watching it is a chore for me and that is an immediate danger sign for any TV show or movie series.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #259 on:** 28 Oct 2014, 14:48 »

Quote from: Blue Kitty on 28 Oct 2014, 09:54

In really, really, really awful casting news, rumor has it that Jaden Smith may be cast as Virgil Hawkins

What

To be fair, I keep having to remind myself he's not like...seven.

Edguy · « **Reply #260 on:** 02 Dec 2014, 16:21 »

The cast of Warner's Suicide Squad movie is out:

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/388379-its-official-meet-the-cast-of-dc-comics-suicide-squad

Most of these we've more or less heard before, I think. Must say, I'm kinda excited to see how all their odd casting will pay out for DC. Is it just to grab attention, or do they have some special vision? (Lol, Warner/DC having a vision would indicate they have a plan

)

Thrillho · « **Reply #261 on:** 02 Dec 2014, 16:43 »

Ha. Good luck Jared.

Kugai · « **Reply #262 on:** 02 Dec 2014, 18:26 »

Edguy · « **Reply #263 on:** 02 Dec 2014, 19:24 »

One thing, Enchantress?! Isn't that a Thor villain?! Blonde bombshell sorceress clad in green and wearing some crown-like headgear? How can those two be so similar, and literally have the same name, without there being copyright issues?

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #264 on:** 03 Dec 2014, 06:20 »

Eh, they're different enough. One started out as a hero and turned into a villain, while the other has always been a villain. I do like the DC Enchantress just cause she was part of the amazing Shadowpact, and I guess she's gained more prominence because of Justice League Dark

Edguy · « **Reply #265 on:** 03 Dec 2014, 06:58 »

Still, the name tho. Too minor a character for there to be copyright issues? That's probably going to change when they put her in a high profile movie tho..

BenRG · « **Reply #266 on:** 03 Dec 2014, 09:53 »

Quote from: Edguy on 03 Dec 2014, 06:58

Still, the name tho. Too minor a character for there to be copyright issues? That's probably going to change when they put her in a high profile movie tho..

The MCU guys can tap-dance around it by just using their Enchantress's given name. MCU tends towards using given names over code-names anyway. I think that Clint Barton's codename was used precisely once in Avengers 1 and, IIRC, that was in mockery.

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #267 on:** 03 Dec 2014, 17:49 »

I think the issue is more a matter of two very similar characters existing all this time without a legal slugfest going on. As far as I can tell, DC's Enchantress is less well known than Marvel's. I am kind of thinking she might have been named checked in the Agents of Shield episode that had Sif and Lorelei in it as well, but as Amora.

Edguy · « **Reply #268 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 06:44 »

So, Amy Adams, mentioned in some interview that there won't be any kind of romantic triangle w. Clark, Diana & Lois.
Oh man, I was looking forward to them taking ques after the recent Supes/WW shipping of the comics. Certainly that was what the movies needed. They could have ended the Clark/Lois romance in a similarly excellent way as The Amazing Spider-Man 2. DRAMA, TENSION, TRAGEDY, ROMANCE!

But alas.

Quote from: Neko_Ali on 03 Dec 2014, 17:49

I think the issue is more a matter of two very similar characters existing all this time without a legal slugfest going on.

Exactly!

Pilchard123 · « **Reply #269 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 10:49 »

Quote from: Edguy on 15 Dec 2014, 06:44

So, Amy Adams, mentioned in some interview that there won't be any kind of romantic triangle w. Clark, Diana & Loins.

O.o

BenRG · « **Reply #270 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 10:57 »

Quote from: Pilchard123 on 15 Dec 2014, 10:49

Quote from: Edguy on 15 Dec 2014, 06:44
So, Amy Adams, mentioned in some interview that there won't be any kind of romantic triangle w. Clark, Diana & Loins.

O.o

Ah! The wonders of auto-correct/auto-complete!

Edguy · « **Reply #271 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 11:58 »

Masterpiece · « **Reply #272 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 12:48 »

Quote from: BenRG on 15 Dec 2014, 10:57

Quote from: Pilchard123 on 15 Dec 2014, 10:49
Quote from: Edguy on 15 Dec 2014, 06:44
So, Amy Adams, mentioned in some interview that there won't be any kind of romantic triangle w. Clark, Diana & Loins.

O.o

Ah! The wonders of auto-correct/auto-complete!

Clark Kent's loins.

Mmm

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #273 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 13:32 »

And what about his Buns of Steel?

Kugai · « **Reply #274 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 13:54 »

All those years in Kansas and he sitll can't bake.

Stoon · « **Reply #275 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 16:37 »

, Woman of Kleenex

Edguy · « **Reply #276 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 18:04 »

Why did I read that?

Method of Madness · « **Reply #277 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 18:32 »

Makes me think of Brodie from Mallrats. He seemed to think Wonder Woman's body would be strong enough to not be killed by the high velocity sperm, if I remember correctly.

Kugai · « **Reply #278 on:** 15 Dec 2014, 22:12 »

Subject that mainstream fails to touch

WW, or Diana, daughter of Hyppolita, was 'Born' and raised on a hidden Island of women.

No men

Just women.

Connect the dots.

Method of Madness · « **Reply #279 on:** 16 Dec 2014, 05:37 »

Diana's always been unusual for leaving the island, although if JL/JLU are any indication her and BATMAN are made for each other.

Thrillho · « **Reply #280 on:** 16 Dec 2014, 05:46 »

I much prefer that version of Wonder Woman. I have absolutely zero desire to see her hook up with Superman.

Nor do I want her to be some Sapphic fantasy for the inevitably male writers. If they can write her as a believable, compelling lesbian then sure, fuck it, that'd actually be a good thing and break down some barriers, but given that the DC movies at the moment can't even be trusted to make a comic-coherent movie at all...

BenRG · « **Reply #281 on:** 16 Dec 2014, 05:48 »

Quote from: Method of Madness on 16 Dec 2014, 05:37

Diana's always been unusual for leaving the island, although if JL/JLU are any indication her and BATMAN are made for each other.

Philip Jose Farmer, who was a serious comic books nerd as well as a brilliant sci-fi writer, was working on something he called "The Wold Newton Universe", an attempt to rationalise and combine every single comics continuity in English-speaking literature, at the time of his death.

He suggested that, whilst the Amazons may have been culturally lesbians (this wouldn't have been a serious issue in a Hellenic culture that didn't have the Judeo-Christian rejection of homosexuality), they regularly raided neighbouring countries or conveniently nearby fishing grounds to obtain... er... 'breeding stock'. These were invariably liquidated after completing their task because, again culturally, Amazons traditionally view men in general as inherently inferior; few are considered 'worthy' in their eyes and those are most notable beings indeed.

Based on this, Diana's willingness to develop a lasting and two-way relationship with a Man was considered shocking to say the least. The fact that her younger sister, Donna, actually married was a major scandal, although Hyppolyta recognised the marriage and even let Donna wear the variant on their people's traditional bracelets that indicated that she had 'willingly enslaved' herself to a man and therefore did not need rescuing.

I also note that, in all versions of the comics canon of which I am aware, Diana and her younger sister are not human but golems - magically-vivified statues. This has the interesting consequence that any ship including Wonder Woman instantly becomes a robot-ship. Despite being arguably an AI, she is one of her world's greatest heroes and held in equal esteem to her fully-biological colleagues. I wonder if Diana is one of Momo's personal heroines?

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #282 on:** 16 Dec 2014, 07:44 »

I would argue against the golem orgin of Diana impling that she is a robot by any definition. She was a clay statue that the gods brought to life for Hippolyta. She was not an animated statue but a real, living and breathing human being. Just of unusual origin. The New 52 version of her back story is much simpler though, and probably what they will go with since it is the current version, if it's mentioned at all. Diana is a result of a tryst between Hippolyta and Ares, making her a demi-goddess.

Edguy · « **Reply #283 on:** 16 Dec 2014, 17:49 »

Wouldn't it be typical if they did some stupid retcon to tie everything together, like Diana's dad being the old king of Atlantis (Khal Drogo's father) or somthing?

Edguy · « **Reply #284 on:** 25 Mar 2015, 11:44 »

Lex Luthor revealed

Whaddya know, Eissenberg kinda looks like Luthor.

Thrillho · « **Reply #285 on:** 25 Mar 2015, 13:59 »

I am really going to expect Aquaman to start raping people and cutting heads off.

Edguy · « **Reply #286 on:** 25 Mar 2015, 14:19 »

DOTHRAKI DOES NOT TRAVEL ON THE UNDRINKABLE WATER, AND SURELY NOT BELLOW IT!

Edguy · « **Reply #287 on:** 18 Apr 2015, 04:30 »

"Tell me.. do you bleed? You will!"

Thrillho · « **Reply #288 on:** 18 Apr 2015, 05:11 »

That looks okay. Might catch it on DVD. Or Netflix. I never rated Bale much as Batman or Bruce Wayne (Keaton and Conroy FTW) and Affleck can ACT.

Blue Kitty · « **Reply #289 on:** 18 Apr 2015, 05:16 »

I watched the Ant-man trailer around the same time I watched this one, and I much prefer the Ant-man one

Gladstone · « **Reply #290 on:** 18 Apr 2015, 21:44 »

Yeah, I watched the BvS trailer, then immediately went and watched the new Star Wars trailer for the 15th or 20th time. As skeptical as I am about Abrams, at least his movie doesn't look like a joyless chore to watch.

Gladstone · « **Reply #291 on:** 23 Apr 2015, 20:37 »

So, um, I wrote a thing.

It came again, my planet's hour of need.
I suited up, prepared, perhaps, to kill.
I asked the god above me, "Do you bleed?"
And answered my own question with "You will."
What need have we of heroes wearing capes
When those they try to rescue are laid low?
You saw the footage of that cityscape
In ruins when, at last, he felled his foe!
Now all the world awaits on bended knee
To see what other blessings he bestows.
How many will live long enough to flee
When next he with an enemy trades blows?
And so, out from my banishment I rise
To tear this cursèd savior from your skies.

Why I wrote this thing about the Batman v. Superman trailer, I have no idea.

Kugai · « **Reply #292 on:** 23 Apr 2015, 23:47 »

Not so sure of all that 'AngstyDark' Mode in the Trailer, but The Bat was always a 'Reality Check' for the Kryptonian.

BenRG · « **Reply #293 on:** 24 Apr 2015, 02:08 »

Quote from: Kugai on 23 Apr 2015, 23:47

Not so sure of all that 'AngstyDark' Mode in the Trailer, but The Bat was always a 'Reality Check' for the Kryptonian.

The only part of the otherwise-repulsively misanthropic The Dark Knight Returns that I like is Bruce wiping the floor with Clark as a prelude to his faking his own death. It is a moment that so quintessentially captures the insane levels of preparation, long-term strategy and technical sophistication that underlies The Batman's mission that it deserves recognition, even if I'd be happy if the rest of that vile screed was pulped.

Edguy · « **Reply #294 on:** 24 Apr 2015, 18:48 »

First look at Jared Leto's Joker

Neko_Ali · « **Reply #295 on:** 24 Apr 2015, 19:30 »

Yeah... I'm really not feeling it. It looks more like someone who's a psycho stalker fanboy of the Joker than anything else. "Trying to hard to look crazy" comes to mind. Sure, the Joker is around the bend insane, but he also had a sense of style and dressed well, if in odd colors. I could see this as one of Batman Beyond's Jokerz gang.. but not Mister J himself.

BenRG · « **Reply #296 on:** 24 Apr 2015, 23:53 »

Yeah, it looks like the DCCU is sliding down the same over-exaggeration black hole that killed the 90's Batman movie franchise. That this is happening in the second movie is a very bad thing.

Aimless · « **Reply #297 on:** 25 Apr 2015, 03:14 »

Batman's costume sucks.

Lines · « **Reply #298 on:** 25 Apr 2015, 10:36 »

His teeth are freaking me out.

Meaning poor dental hygiene is more terrifying than the Joker and that's not a good thing. Especially since he's one of my favorite villains.

Edguy · « **Reply #299 on:** 25 Apr 2015, 20:00 »

Quote from: Neko_Ali on 24 Apr 2015, 19:30

Yeah... I'm really not feeling it. It looks more like someone who's a psycho stalker fanboy of the Joker than anything else. "Trying to hard to look crazy" comes to mind. Sure, the Joker is around the bend insane, but he also had a sense of style and dressed well, if in odd colors. I could see this as one of Batman Beyond's Jokerz gang.. but not Mister J himself.

Agreed. Still too early to give a full judgement, but from what I see, it doesn't look all that right..

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