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Edguy:
My friends and I went to see Suicide Squad tonight. Seen reviews so I knew it wasn't gonna live up to the hype, but I was still disappointed. At this point it 's rather clear that there is some inherent flaw within the DC/Warner production machine, because all their films have the same problems of confused scripts, tone all over the place, poorly used humor, absolutely no self-awareness and absolutely GODAWFUL editing. Seriously, the pacing and structure of BvS and SS are basically non-existant. It's kinda shocking how poorly put together these movies are, to be honest. All the movies are made up of mostly decent elements (decent casting, design, music, plot ideas) but the execution is just not there.

(click to show/hide)For Suicide Squad specifically, I was very disappointed that it had to be some world ending, visual effects only threat. It makes little sense to me. I was hoping the Joker was gonna be the main/initial antagonist and that the plot would be a bit more down to earth, undercover sorta character driven story. But no, giant lightbeam, darkened sky, and New York generic large city in ruins. Also, the cinematography and choreography was very underwhelming. Ended up El Diably really being the only interesting character in fights since the physical fighting was so "uncreatively" shot.

For things I like, once again I think the casting and character design were good. Don't like the silly tattoos on the Joker, but other that that it's all good. Deadshot and Harley were good (as expected from the actors) though I felt like their characterization got a little soft at times. These hardcore criminals and psychopaths got very sentimental and caring about each other very quick, especially Harley. She had way too much empathy for my taste. On the other side we had Captain America Rick Flag not giving two shits about Waller just gunning down a bunch of people for shits and giggles. Boomerang was pretty cool, shame he didn't really do anything in the movie. My personal favorite is probably Diablo, he had a relatively steady character arc, had his moments in the movie and looked pretty cool.
After watching Suicide Squad, we went home and watched Kingsman. What a great movie that did so many of the things that SS tried and failed at right. Good cinematography, editing, pacing, use of music and comedic/dramatic timing is essential to humor/action movies like these, and here we have one example of how to do all these right and how to do all these wrong.

Neko_Ali:
I also saw Suicide Squad today. My expectations were rock bottom, so I was happy it wasn't a complete garbage fire. It was even kind of decent in a 'detach your brain and just go with it' way. Though I couldn't help myself asking 'Why' to the screen in so many cases. Why were these people acting like this. Why did nobody seem to be bothering to stop the big world-ending thing until it was plot convenient. Why did they even put Katana in the movie if they were going to do absolutely nothing with her. The pacing was horrible as well. Taking way to long to introduce the characters with little in between to break it up. There was also the whole host of 'whys' around the existence and operation of the Suicide Squad.. But that is a given and you just got to roll with it. It's a pretty widely accepted fact I think that everyone knows what an incredibly stupid idea it is and why it would never work out. But just gloss over that because they want to see these bad guys working together as the stars.

It had it's good points. Many of the cast was superbly done and I sincerely hope to see Deadshot, Harley and Waller appear in more movies at least. Diablo probably has the strongest story arc, even through it never really goes anywhere. His story is really mostly told in flashback. Katana has the weakest as in it was basically non-existent. I do think that they kept the characters very close to what I've seen in the comics. Which is a huge plus for the DCEU. And I will say something that genuinely surprises me. I didn't hate Jared Leto as the Joker. From everything I had seen and read about him, I expected to absolutely hate him in the role. And mind you, of all the people who have played Mista J, I think his is the worst portrayal. But when you consider who else has been in this role and the absolutely character defining performances they have given him... Being the one who just played a 'meh' Joker isn't that bad, really. I do question strongly his motivation in he movie. That is far from any version of the character I've seen and doesn't really work.

In the end, I think it's worth a matinee trip. Or wait til it's on dvd and rent it. It's still not on par with the Marvel movies, or the DC animated movies. But it wasn't the horrible garbage fire of Dawn of Justice either.

Blue Kitty:
Precious angels too good for this movie

BenRG:
I'm pretty sure that there is going to be a 'Harley and Deadshot' film just because those are the only two in the film with charisma... or even a recognisable character.

Edguy:
I think that's pretty unfair. I think Courtney was pretty funny, problem was he didn't get anything to do. And I really liked Hernandez (El Diablo). Also Smith & Robbie got very much all of the screen time and plot development, so..

Also, I think having Deadshot and Harley getting all friendly was pretty forced. Absolutely no reason for them to have anything other than forced association with each other, save for being the two most popular characters/actors.

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