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Neko_Ali:
They did have top billing, and it was no accident. Deadshot and Harley have pretty much been fixtures in the Suicide Squad comics. Well so has Captain Boomerang, but his role was more comic relief. He was seriously underused in the movie sadly. I think he was the worst casualty of trying to shove to many people into this film. It should be pointed out that Deadshot and Harley do have something of a working and occasionally sexual relationship in the comics during their time on the Squad. Most often as two people on the team who aren't complete unhinged psychopaths or entirely unreliable. Which given that ones is an immoral assassin for hire and the other is a criminally insane criminal with a string of violent assaults and murders on her sheet is saying something.

Why it failed in the movie is that they were given no reason to develop a reliance on each other or affection for each other. It was just put in the movie because they had it in the comics. Again, a flaw where they were trying to do way to much for one movie. There is a reason why Marvel studios didn't start with The Avengers first, then do the solo films. Pacing was shot to hell in Suicide Squad as they tried to shove the full origin of Harley, the origin of the Squad and mini-origins of the other characters into a movie that also had to main plot lines running.. The Squad's first mission and Joker trying to free Harley. That was about 4-5 movies worth of material they tried to shove into one.

BenRG:
I've thought for a while that WB is putting on too much speed in an attempt to catch up with Disney and it's leading to compromised work all the way down the line.

TheEvilDog:

--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 21 Aug 2016, 12:50 ---Why it failed in the movie is that they were given no reason to develop a reliance on each other or affection for each other. It was just put in the movie because they had it in the comics. Again, a flaw where they were trying to do way to much for one movie. There is a reason why Marvel studios didn't start with The Avengers first, then do the solo films. Pacing was shot to hell in Suicide Squad as they tried to shove the full origin of Harley, the origin of the Squad and mini-origins of the other characters into a movie that also had to main plot lines running.. The Squad's first mission and Joker trying to free Harley. That was about 4-5 movies worth of material they tried to shove into one.

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You've hit the nail on the head with the problem that Warner Brothers and DC are suffering from. Marvel and Disney have been making its cinematic universe since 2008, or at least setting up the possibility of it (no one knew that the first few films would be that successful), but its used that time to introduce key characters and to develop those stories, as well as slowly expand the overall Infinity Stones storyline.

Even with the success of the Dark Knight Saga, DC and Warner Brothers were very slow in developing a cinematic universe, possibly even getting to the point where they can't catch up. And so, we get films where a dozen interesting characters in the comics are thrown into something of a mess where there barely seems to be enough time to introduce them let alone develop their characters. Marvel took 4 years and 5 films to get to the point where the Avengers assembled, while DC tried to introduce a ensemble film of a lesser known property* in a year and after 2 films.

*lesser in the sense that people would think of the Justice League before they thought of Suicide Squad.

Method of Madness:
I'm really hoping 2017 is DC's year, what with Wonder Woman and Justice League.

Edguy:
I'm starting to lose faith that anything they'll make will be good at this point..

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