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The most off-topic WCDT discussion ever
ZoeB:
--- Quote from: GarandMarine on 14 May 2013, 00:28 ---What do you suggest we (as "The West" and one large prison colony) do to rectify the situation? Should all artifacts be returned?
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How about... Yes.
--- Quote --- Or should nations with artifacts stored in national museums pay some form of restitution?
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The only restitution I can think of is to transfer cultural treasures of equal value to the wronged nation for the same period.
--- Quote ---As a historian and an avid museum nerd, the argument that a lot of these items (not China specifically) would have been long destroyed or lost without archeologists and other dedicated individuals preserving them could also be made.
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The Elgin Marbles would have been destroyed by pollution by now if they weren't preserved in the British museum, for example.
However... such preservation should be looked on as a temporary adoption, not conferring ownership.
On a side note, if I ever become stupidly wealthy, I'm going to set up a special network of museums globally. From those museums that agree to participate, large themed traveling exhibits will be formed from their store houses and current displays. (Similar to the King Tut exhibit that goes around now and then) these exhibits will be constantly rotated, every month to two months globally in a massive pattern, giving the local museums something new and exciting to draw in patrons with, and allowing a global audience to benefit from the knowledge you can glean from said exhibits as opposed to limited portions of the United States or Europe.
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Method of Madness:
Returned to who, though?
pwhodges:
Many things in museums are not unique, but merely examples. Although theoretically this doesn't change the matter of ownership, considering the number of artefacts involved, the question of return is only likely to be seriously considered for those things which are unique, or so rare as to be nearly so. Where the artefacts are architectural and have been built into the physical structure of the exhibiting building, this could be highly destructive (I'm thinking of bits of the Burrell Collection in Glasgow).
If all countries had governments of equal standing and cooperativeness, it would be ideal that arrangements were made to loan artefacts for exhibitions as required.
HeavyP:
--- Quote from: Pilchard123 on 14 May 2013, 00:16 ---I wouldn't have minded that finish so much if it wasn't quite so out of the blue. I haven't read it in a while, but from what I remember, that's also the first the reader has any idea of what's happening.
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Ehn, he starts hinting at the reveal through the final stages of the training - though I personally enjoyed it and it did make sense to me. You do raise valid points, though.
Method of Madness:
We had no idea because Ender had no idea.
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