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Masterpiece:
Well all the items dug up in Troy went to Berlin, but that's because the Sultan allowed it back then. Now they're in Russia.

Loki:
That's interesting, I never knew that. Was Troy on Ottoman ground?

And Method: I don't know the answer, sorry.

KOK:

--- Quote from: Loki on 11 May 2013, 08:15 ---
There is such a thing as "legal successor" in regards to states.

For example, after the downfall of the USSR, Russia went and said "we are the legal successor of the USSR. If anyone has any outstanding business with the USSR, come to us", and mostly everyone agreed, I suppose because Russia was where the orders were coming from anyway.

--- End quote ---

That very nearly went differently. Russia was not a member of the Sovjet Union when it was dissolved. When everybody else had left, the Sovjet Union consisted of the five central asiatic republics, and for a short while it seemed that they might keep the Union going. What would had happened then is difficult to say. How long could they have kept the veto in the UN security council, for example? To what lengths would Russia have gone to wrest it from them? To what lengths would China have gone to destabilize the union? A major Turkish state right at the border of China's Turkish speaking provinces is a nightmare to the Chinese government.

KOK:

--- Quote from: Loki on 11 May 2013, 09:54 ---That's interesting, I never knew that. Was Troy on Ottoman ground?

--- End quote ---

Not only Troy, also Athens. The British Museum aquired the Parthenon frieze legally, since they had the permission of the Ottoman government, who was the legetimate government of Greece at the time. Today Grece claims that the it was not, but it was recognized as such by all powers at the time.

Troy is in what it Turkey today.

Masterpiece:

--- Quote from: KOK on 11 May 2013, 10:00 ---A major Turkish state right at the border of China's Turkish speaking provinces is a nightmare to the Chinese government.

--- End quote ---
Turkeys border is miles away from China. So I'm not entirely sure what you're saying.
If you mean Turkmen state, that's a different thing entirely.

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