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Why did Faye's dad kill himself?

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Is it cold in here?:
On the other hand there's the outright fear of Marten that she had even after long experience with him: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=453

Zebediah:

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--- Quote from: Zebediah on 08 Jun 2013, 09:35 ---Faye doesn't act like a victim of childhood sexual abuse. I've known a few women who were sexually abused as children or teenagers, and in some ways they tend to act more like Hannelore than Faye - they often get extremely freaked out by even a little bit of friendly physical contact. And that's all I'm going to say on the subject for now.
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Well, how a real person might behave after sexual abuse has no bearing on how a fictional character might; it depends purely on what the author knows. Jeph might just not know how a sexual abuse victim would act.
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Maybe not, but Jeph is notorious for doing his homework on this kind of thing.

Besides, arguing that Faye suffered sexual abuse because you think that she acts how you imagine Jeph imagines a sexually abused person would act is kind of a stretch.

Loki:
I can kinda see where you are coming from, but my opinion is "no. just no."

From the story point of view, I just don't see any reliable indication that might have been the case. Yes, he had issues, and he was pretty close with Faye, but jeez. Does that automatically mean that he molested her?

This part about the argumentation bothers me the most:

--- Quote from: Eddie 88 on 08 Jun 2013, 13:53 ---Well, how a real person might behave after sexual abuse has no bearing on how a fictional character might; it depends purely on what the author knows. Jeph might just not know how a sexual abuse victim would act.

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This basically gives way to ignoring all evidence to the contrary because you can counter it with "well, maybe Jeph doesn't know that". And in this case, absence of evidence is evidence of absence. I think Zebediah voiced my argument better than me while I was typing.

From an audience point of view, I cannot see Jeph giving Faye such a troubled past. I still wish we had Word Of God on this, though.

Eddie 88:

--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 08 Jun 2013, 14:17 ---On the other hand there's the outright fear of Marten that she had even after long experience with him: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=453
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I wouldn't frame that as fear of Marten, just irrational fear that happens to be manifesting itself as the ludicrous proposition of being sexually assaulted by Marten. Which does seem like sexual dysfunction. Her fearing that Marten would abandon her if his mom didn't like her would be Faye exhibiting the trust issues one might expect from a child whose parent committed suicide. It makes no sense whatsoever that she'd worry about sexual violation in the aftermath of parental suicide, though.


--- Quote from: Zebediah on 08 Jun 2013, 14:56 ---
--- Quote from: Eddie 88 on 08 Jun 2013, 13:53 ---
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 08 Jun 2013, 09:35 ---Faye doesn't act like a victim of childhood sexual abuse. I've known a few women who were sexually abused as children or teenagers, and in some ways they tend to act more like Hannelore than Faye - they often get extremely freaked out by even a little bit of friendly physical contact. And that's all I'm going to say on the subject for now.
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Well, how a real person might behave after sexual abuse has no bearing on how a fictional character might; it depends purely on what the author knows. Jeph might just not know how a sexual abuse victim would act.
--- End quote ---

Maybe not, but Jeph is notorious for doing his homework on this kind of thing.

Besides, arguing that Faye suffered sexual abuse because you think that she acts how you imagine Jeph imagines a sexually abused person would act is kind of a stretch.
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Well, that's not my argument though; that was just me deflecting the notion that my argument is invalid because real people in real life don't act that way after sexual abuse. I actually don't really have an "argument," it's just the overall impression that I got.


--- Quote from: Loki on 08 Jun 2013, 14:58 ---I can kinda see where you are coming from, but my opinion is "no. just no."

From the story point of view, I just don't see any reliable indication that might have been the case. Yes, he had issues, and he was pretty close with Faye, but jeez. Does that automatically mean that he molested her?
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Not automatically, no, it's just the impression I got from this particular situation. Honestly, as the child of one alcoholic non-entity parent and one physically abusive parent, I really, really envy people who have super-close relationships with their parents. If I was ever so lucky as to get married, and have children of my own, my only hope could be to be as close to them as Faye and her dad were (assuming no abuse, which is probably correct, but it's still fun to speculate).


--- Quote from: Loki on 08 Jun 2013, 14:58 ---This part about the argumentation bothers me the most:

--- Quote from: Eddie 88 on 08 Jun 2013, 13:53 ---Well, how a real person might behave after sexual abuse has no bearing on how a fictional character might; it depends purely on what the author knows. Jeph might just not know how a sexual abuse victim would act.

--- End quote ---

This basically gives way to ignoring all evidence to the contrary because you can counter it with "well, maybe Jeph doesn't know that". And in this case, absence of evidence is evidence of absence. I think Zebediah voiced my argument better than me while I was typing.

From an audience point of view, I cannot see Jeph giving Faye such a troubled past. I still wish we had Word Of God on this, though.
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Yeah, 'cause Jeph totally hates interjecting drama into his characters pasts :p

I do definitely want Word of God eventually, though, but not until the comic is finished.

pwhodges:
When he last mentioned the matter, Jeph had no plan to end the comic at any time.

But if you want, ask the question on his Tumblr - Jeph makes regular posts of answers there, and might well simply say "no" if he knows that.

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