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Why did Faye's dad kill himself?
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 08 Jun 2013, 09:38 ---Was there a case where Faye even allowed a little bit of friendly physical contact from Marten while sober?
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Tthree times, when Faye was miserable: when he hugged her outside CoD, but lost the chance to do it again! During the Talk (thanks ThomasEll), and shortly before the breakup.
ThomasEll:
--- Quote from: TinPenguin on 08 Jun 2013, 09:44 ---There was the time he slapped her butt.
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She did punch him for it though I'm fairly sure.
The one time that I can definitely think of is when he hugged her just after she told him about her dad.
Loki:
--- Quote from: Eddie 88 on 08 Jun 2013, 08:25 ---Have there been any recent developments that invalidate any of this? (Don't worry about "spoiling" me if there have been.)
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Nope. The most recent time this was discussed was in a situation involving Faye and Angus, but it did not shed any new light on anything.
Redball:
I had the same thought as Eddie on first reading The Talk, and in my naivete and before discovering the forum might even have asked Jeph (no answer that I recall). What reinforced the thought was the top panel here, and the looks from mom and sis.
But later, I decided I'd read too much into that. And I agree with IICIH, that it's better and better art not to know.
Eddie 88:
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 08 Jun 2013, 09:35 ---Faye doesn't act like a victim of childhood sexual abuse. I've known a few women who were sexually abused as children or teenagers, and in some ways they tend to act more like Hannelore than Faye - they often get extremely freaked out by even a little bit of friendly physical contact. And that's all I'm going to say on the subject for now.
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Well, how a real person might behave after sexual abuse has no bearing on how a fictional character might; it depends purely on what the author knows. Jeph might just not know how a sexual abuse victim would act.
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 08 Jun 2013, 09:38 ---"Abandonment issues" might be more precise. Fear of emotional closeness was I think why she jumped Sven, thinking that she could use him as a human vibrator without risking emotional attachment (not that it worked).
On the other hand, her response to the prospect of someone being sexually attracted to her even secretly was disproportionate.
In my irrelevant opinion, it's better art if we never find out why David Whitaker shot himself.
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Absolutely, I agree 100%. Plus, it's more true-to-life. Although it's not common, sometimes people do commit suicide without having shown any signs of distress and without leaving any kind of note. For their loved ones, there's never any grand reveal, there's never any closure. For Jeph to hand The Truth to us from on-high would cheapen the emotional and character importance of the event.
That said, I'd still like to know more about Faye's dad, if only to fuel our speculatin'.
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 08 Jun 2013, 10:00 ---
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 08 Jun 2013, 09:38 ---Was there a case where Faye even allowed a little bit of friendly physical contact from Marten while sober?
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Tthree times, when Faye was miserable: when he hugged her outside CoD, but lost the chance to do it again! During the Talk (thanks ThomasEll), and shortly before the breakup.
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I'd say misery counts as a compromised mental state. She doesn't let people touch her (even, say, Dora) when sober and happy, only when drunk and/or miserable. Also, a hug isn't necessarily sexual.
--- Quote from: ThomasEll on 08 Jun 2013, 10:24 ---
--- Quote from: TinPenguin on 08 Jun 2013, 09:44 ---There was the time he slapped her butt.
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She did punch him for it though I'm fairly sure.
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Yeah, I just read that one. She decked him clean to the floor. Although I wouldn't necessarily say a lady clobbering a guy who slapped her butt is evidence of sexual problems. I mean, I know I would never in a million years slap any of my ladyfriends' butts. Granted, I myself have issues, but still. Someone slaps your butt, I say you're well within your rights to...well, certainly not visit cartoonish violence on them, but this is a webcomic, after all.
(Note to Self: Webcomic After All would make a good Deathmole/Daft Punk mashup.)
--- Quote from: Loki on 08 Jun 2013, 13:17 ---
--- Quote from: Eddie 88 on 08 Jun 2013, 08:25 ---Have there been any recent developments that invalidate any of this? (Don't worry about "spoiling" me if there have been.)
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Nope. The most recent time this was discussed was in a situation involving Faye and Angus, but it did not shed any new light on anything.
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Ah, okay. Thanks.
--- Quote from: Redball on 08 Jun 2013, 13:30 ---I had the same thought as Eddie on first reading The Talk, and in my naivete and before discovering the forum might even have asked Jeph (no answer that I recall). What reinforced the thought was the top panel here, and the looks from mom and sis.
But later, I decided I'd read too much into that. And I agree with IICIH, that it's better and better art not to know.
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I didn't and don't think that particular panel meant or means anything. Amanda's just being jerky to Faye like always, and Mrs. Whitaker's scowling her disapproval at Amanda, not Faye/David. It's not any one thing that I can point towards and say "see? evidence!" It's just an overall feeling I get from the whole situation.
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