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Why did Faye's dad kill himself?

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Is it cold in here?:
Excellent point!

EDIT: To elaborate, there's a macho strain in Southern culture which would have inhibited his hypothetical depressed ancestors from admitting what they would have wrongly considered weakness.

Method of Madness:
Sven sleeping with the singer was not what he did wrong. What he did wrong was consider not telling Faye. He did have every right to sleep with someone else, as long as he excepted the consequence of losing Faye as a partner if he did so. Since he did tell Faye the next time he saw her (as far as I can tell), and accepted the inevitable consequence, he...pretty much did everything he needed to.
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 11 Jun 2013, 00:24 ---Summarizable as "he killed himself because he was a stupid jackass".
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This was probably covered, but I think you have that backwards. I see that more as "he was a stupid jackass because he killed himself"

Eddie 88:

--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 15 Jun 2013, 00:25 ---
--- Quote from: Eddie 88 on 14 Jun 2013, 23:40 ---society schmoschmiety; nobody's making fun of her for being fat.

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Marten's complained about not being strong enough to hold up a couch or an unconscious friend (too lazy to dig up the references right now).
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Those examples are playful in my mind. Whenever Faye actually gets down on herself about her weight, everyone, especially Marten, tells her she looks fine.


--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 15 Jun 2013, 00:25 ---Whatever Fayedad's reasons were, he had the ability to pick up a phone or say "I'm thinking of killing myself" at a routine physical exam. With ability comes ethical responsibility. Whatever pain he was in, he should have tried pills first and bullets last.
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Spoken like a man who's never gone through severe depression. It's not that easy. I won't even begin to attempt to explain the mindset of a suicidally depressed person, you should just know you're utterly in the dark.


--- Quote from: pwhodges on 15 Jun 2013, 00:29 ---
--- Quote from: Eddie 88 on 14 Jun 2013, 23:40 --- Just because Faye was hurt by Sven's actions doesn't make his actions wrong; he was well within his rights to have sex with whoever he wanted to.
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I suppose; he broke no law.  But society is a way of people getting along, and hopefully not hurting each other unnecessarily - and society says he was in the wrong, in the sense of being a major dick.
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How was he being a dick? He made it clear all along he had no interest in monogamy. If he had agreed to monogamy with Faye, then had sex with someone else, he'd be a dick. If he'd hid banging Gina Riversmith, knowing that Faye was interested in monogamy and would stop banging him, he'd be a dick. But he didn't do either of those things.

Sven and Faye had sex as consenting adults. When they kept on having sex and eventually discussed what their "thing" was, Sven said he wasn't interested in monogamy and Faye made it clear she was. Just because Faye wanted a monogamous relationship didn't mean Sven was morally bound to go along with it. He was completely free and within his rights to have sex with Gina Riversmith. And telling Faye was the right thing to do. He did nothing wrong, in my eyes.


--- Quote from: pwhodges on 15 Jun 2013, 00:29 ---
--- Quote ---Obviously people have a right to commit suicide, but that doesn't mean that right should be exercised, nor does it mean that the effects of one's suicide on others should be completely ignored.
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Bear in mind that it is not agreed by all that it is a right.  In the eyes of much of the church it is a sin, and under the laws of some countries it is still a crime (Singapore and India, for instance, though most Western countries have dropped this).  In North Korea, legal sanctions are applied against surviving relatives...
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I don't care whether everyone agrees that it's a right. Almost no one agrees that homosexuals should have the same rights as heterosexuals, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't.

pwhodges:
My point on rights is that there is no absolute standard.  They are a development of society to help codify the ways that we get along for the best.  But at any time there will be areas in which some people (or societies, or countries) disagree.  So when I say Sven was a dick, I am simply saying that his behaviour was not calculated for him to get along with Faye; sure he told her, and that's honest, be he also hurt her and destroyed what they had going - which is his "right", as you say, but still dickish in my book.  And as for the church, I disagree with much of what they say - but you have to acknowledge that they still have considerable influence (which is not the same as agreeing with them) in order to be able to counter their views effectively.

Loki:

--- Quote from: Eddie 88 on 18 Jun 2013, 18:00 ---Almost no one agrees that homosexuals should have the same rights as heterosexuals, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't.

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...you are preaching to the choir here. I think pertaining to this forum you should say that "Almost noone disagrees".

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