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WCDT: 2465-2469 (10-14 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Squiddlywinx:
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--- Quote from: sha'mad conde on 10 Jun 2013, 00:15 ---I had to Google the word "fib." Is that an Eastern US word? It doesn't exist out here...
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--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 10 Jun 2013, 00:44 ---Now that you mention it, I don't think I've heard it since moving out West.
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--- Quote from: Adjamemnon on 10 Jun 2013, 03:03 ---Not that far east, though; Colorado/Wyoming person here and I've heard the term.
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I've been living in California since I was four years old and I've heard the word "fib" for as long as I can remember.
Both my parents were originally from the Midwest, though (Oklahoma and Wisconsin), so it's possible I got it from them... but I'm sure I've heard lots of other Californians use that word.
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Yep.
Redball:
Welcome, new member! While brevity is good, you're welcome to post at greater length and tell us about yourself in the newcomer section.
DSL:
--- Quote from: Valdís on 10 Jun 2013, 16:17 ---
--- Quote from: ThomasEll on 10 Jun 2013, 16:08 ---I think that questions of free will notwithstanding, I think it's reasonable to use the word choose in relation to belief systems.
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Then try to actually seriously believe something horrendously inhumane about another group of people for a few minutes now - one which you don't have any problems with at all, but that others hate.
How's that working out for you? No? Not managing it? I know I can't; and that the same things goes for the rest. Pretending to hold a belief is not synonymous with actually believing it.
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I know plenty of people who choose to believe whatever easy-to-digest bumper-stickerism was last and loudest shouted at them, for no other reason than it helps them rationalize their fears/prejudices or gives them some Other to blame for their failure to be as awesome as they think they ought to be. Some are family and cannot be abandoned, others were folks I encountered because dealing with such folks was my (thankfully) former job.
Yes, belief is a choice. You can choose to believe, or you can choose to test your belief. In a rational person, the latter course might strengthen or weaken a belief. Not everyone is rational.
Valdís:
--- Quote from: DSL on 10 Jun 2013, 16:33 ---I know plenty of people who choose to believe whatever easy-to-digest bumper-stickerism was last and loudest shouted at them, for no other reason than it helps them rationalize their fears/prejudices or gives them some Other to blame for their failure to be as awesome as they think they ought to be.
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Petitio principii. You are assuming the initial point to be argued as a premise: "People choose to believe things because I think they choose to believe them".
Basically just re-read this, or read it if you didn't in the first place. Just because people can believe things for bad reasons doesn't make it a choice. If it is helping them provide justification for their poorly-supported prejudices then those are pre-existing beliefs that their uncritical minds are trying to support, not the other way around.
DSL:
Well, that didn't take long.
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