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WCDT: 2465-2469 (10-14 June, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Valdís:
Hm? The timestamps say it's like 40 minutes between them? Also you were replying to my post specifically, so yeah, I responded? :psyduck:
ankhtahr:
I discussed this topic with a friend a few days ago actually. At least in context with religions "believing" is to me the same as "hoping", the only difference being the probability you allocate to it. If you believe something, you wish for something to happen and assume it will, if you hope for something, you wish for it to happen, but don't necessarily assume that it will.
Shjade:
--- Quote from: Valdís on 10 Jun 2013, 16:17 ---Then try to actually seriously believe something horrendously inhumane about another group of people for a few minutes now - one which you don't have any problems with at all, but that others hate.
How's that working out for you? No? Not managing it? I know I can't; and that the same things goes for the rest. Pretending to hold a belief is not synonymous with actually believing it.
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That works out for me alright. It's unpleasant, as I don't like thinking that way about other people even when I have good reason to do so, but it's not some impossible task to change point of view to consider someone else's perspective. It is, in fact, something which more people should do more often.
I find it interesting that your position seems to be the opposite of the position you're refuting: where you say...
--- Quote from: Valdís on 10 Jun 2013, 17:12 ---Petitio principii. You are assuming the initial point to be argued as a premise: "People choose to believe things because I think they choose to believe them".
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...your counterargument appears to be "People don't choose to believe things because I think they don't choose to believe them." Choosing to maintain a pre-existing belief rather than face the difficulties associated with needing to change that belief is still a choice, in that case the choice to shore up support for what they already believe rather than to go against it.
All that said, as others have pointed out already, this could probably live a more healthy life in its own thread. The discussion on choice, that is. It seems like it's starting to take this one over.
Sidenote: when did I say I was leaving the discussion? Presumptuous.
GarandMarine:
*singing* Hiiiighway to the Spider Zone!
Loki:
I know this "We have a basement?" line.
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