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Pintsize: Butts.

6 (7.3%)

Marigold: Play DS and do the wallflower.

4 (4.9%)

Faye and Angus: Dance and sloppy makeouts!

0 (0%)

Tai: DJ'ing, of course.

11 (13.4%)

Dora: Coffee for the DJ booth!

0 (0%)

Marten: Bad dancing and moping afterwards.

5 (6.1%)

Claire: Non-consensual snuggles and brandy taste tests.

4 (4.9%)

Hannelore: sweeping up all the rice and sterilizing the knife for the cake.

7 (8.5%)

Momo: Making sure there was something old, something new, etc.

2 (2.4%)

She'd suggest a 5-yen piece in the shoe instead, however.

0 (0%)

Space Ham with Waffle Fries as the main course!

10 (12.2%)

Who cares? CONGRATS LINDS!

33 (40.2%)

Total Members Voted: 80

[mtmerrick]

I'm glad I was wrong about you Jim. 

[WAYF]

I have my birthday the day after Jeph does.

I just happen to have received Random Access Memories for my birthday.

Thanks Jeph. Cause what I really wanted was MORE of that song stuck in my head...

(The new Daft Punk album is kind of awesome, but then I have very low standards so what do I know? )

[SJCrew]

Jim is a pretty charismatic character, I have to admit. Quite unlike, well, everyone else in the strip who's too quirky or flawed to take seriously.

[Indicible]

Age difference in a relationship, is IMHO, not as important as the difference in maturity (been said before...).

Problem is, we all have those biological preconceptions (why do we find incest disgusting? Because it produces genetic aberrations, short term). I would say age difference is one of those subjects: older people are less fertile, so, for one of the partners, it is a waste of reproductive potential (vasectomy nonewithstanding).
We have those preconceptions for a reason. While it may be outdated/unreasonable (as in not anchored in reason), it has served us for millenia. It's now kinda hard to get rid of it.

Warning - while you were typing Ragnarok happened. You may wish to remove yourself from Yggdrasil post-haste.

[Is it cold in here?]

Happy birthday, WAYF!

[techkid]

Basically, all that can be done is for people (of any legal ages) to take the time and trouble to get to know each other well enough to decide whether they are a suitable couple in their own eyes.

That's true enough. Age (provided of course they are of legal age) and maturity are pretty insignificant if there is a mutual feeling of love between a couple.

OK, I'll bite: So what's wrong with relationships with an age difference?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enjo_k%C5%8Dsai

That is a different kettle of fish. This is not by any means a "feeling of mutual love", more closer to "payment for services rendered" and "wrong, wrong, wrong".

[Shjade]

I'm glad I was wrong about you Jim. 

I'm glad I was right! =D

[Alerie Sand]

Aw, looks like Jim is gonna be okay with it 
Looks like he might only need one or two beers in the end.

[Akima]

Tai's Asian? When is there any indication of that? Or of her ethnicity in general, actually?

Not much; I have no idea where that came from. Her first name is possibly of Chinese or Vietnamese origin but her surname, Hubbert, certainly isn't.

Jim rebounds from taco tacky to classy in one strip!

[LittleKing]

I have my birthday the day after Jeph does.

I just happen to have received Random Access Memories for my birthday.

Thanks Jeph. Cause what I really wanted was MORE of that song stuck in my head...

(The new Daft Punk album is kind of awesome, but then I have very low standards so what do I know? )

I really like the album too. The song Sam's singing is actually my current ringtone

And happy birthday btw

[Border Reiver]

Jim can still have tacos and beer, right? 

[Nepiophage]

Tai's Asian? When is there any indication of that? Or of her ethnicity in general, actually?

Not much; I have no idea where that came from.

In one of Jeph's Q&A posts he answers the question (quoting from memory)
Q. What ethnicity is Tai?
A. Tanned.

[jwhouk]

Could be worse. She could be singing about dancing off the Hollywood sign.

[westrim]

Tai's Asian? When is there any indication of that? Or of her ethnicity in general, actually?

Not much; I have no idea where that came from.

In one of Jeph's Q&A posts he answers the question (quoting from memory)
Q. What ethnicity is Tai?
A. Tanned.

See:

Tai's Asian? When is there any indication of that? Or of her ethnicity in general, actually?

I didn't say she was Asian, Jim said she was Asian.    Her ethnicity is Ambiguously Brown.

[Method of Madness]

Except even "ambiguously brown" is more detail than we're given.

[DrBear]

Just to mention it, when my wife and I married, I was 42, she was 26. We're still married after 13 years.

I have no trouble with any relationship as long as it isn't judged by some outside factor (age, preference, tattoos); let the people involved decide. Its no one else's business.

[Kugai]

I like Jim, he's funny.

[Method of Madness]

I'm 25. While I can imagine that, were I single, dating someone say...ten years older than me, I can't imagine doing the reverse. That is, dating someone who's 25 when I'm 35 (I wasn't referring to dating a 15-year-old now, although obviously no interest in doing that either). Yes, that's just what works for me, not necessarily for anyone else, but when I look into another relationship and think "will it work?", it's really all I have to go on.

I do hope that made sense.

[Valdís]

but when I look into another relationship and think "will it work?", it's really all I have to go on.

You could try not going on that non-information at all and not being prejudiced and presumptuous? Just a suggestion.

[Method of Madness]

Who said I was being either?

[Valdís]

You just did? What else does "Looking at the relationships of others and judging whether they'll work based solely on age-difference" entail?

[Method of Madness]

It entails not changing key words when you quote someone.

[Valdís]

..I didn't. I quoted your exact words in the original post I responded to, but then I paraphrased the way it read? What?

[Method of Madness]

Because you changed thinking to judging which is a pretty damn big change. If I think something wouldn't work for me, that doesn't I mean that someone else shouldn't try it, and it certainly doesn't mean I'm judging them for doing so. That is to say, I can't imagine it working because I can't imagine it working, but I won't tell them not to try.

[Valdís]

How is "I think their relationship won't work because X" particularly different from "judging" that to be the case..? Isn't thinking those kinds of things pretty much synonymous with being judgmental about it?

I also don't see why you're bringing it back to "wouldn't work for me" when you talked about the relationships of others with that as the sole information on their compatibility. I also didn't say anything about forbidding it, but it's not like that has ever been a requirement for being judgmental about something.

[Method of Madness]

I never said that was the sole information I used to determine that, it was just the one we were talking about. Then again, maybe I did without realizing it. It's probably best to ignore me on this topic, as I'm not sure at the moment what I'm talking about anymore.

[Valdís]

"I never said that was the sole information I used"? You literally, word-for-word, said "all I have to go on"!

[Method of Madness]

Oh, now I understand! I was referring to whether or not I thought the relationship would work. That is, my own perspective is the only thing I have to go on. Not that one sole piece of information.

[Sylentknight]

It's probably been said before, and it's very unlikely to happen (too convenient), however, ...Jim and Veronica?

"...and away we go."

[Kugai]

*Puts on steel helmet and ducks behind Parapet*

[Zebediah]

Uh, no. I really strongly doubt that Veronica is Jim's type.

[Method of Madness]

Also, Jim might be too old for Veronica. Isn't she usually into the younger ones?

[DSL]

But she's so lone-leeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ...

[Truec]

Problem is, we all have those biological preconceptions (why do we find incest disgusting? Because it produces genetic aberrations, short term). I would say age difference is one of those subjects: older people are less fertile, so, for one of the partners, it is a waste of reproductive potential (vasectomy nonewithstanding).
We have those preconceptions for a reason. While it may be outdated/unreasonable (as in not anchored in reason), it has served us for millenia. It's now kinda hard to get rid of it.

Do we have a biological preconception about age differences?  It hasn't been that long since older men marrying younger women was considered the natural order of things in most of the western world.

[cesariojpn]

Also, Jim might be too old for Veronica. Isn't she usually into the younger ones?

Only if they pay her rates.

[Skewbrow]

Problem is, we all have those biological preconceptions (why do we find incest disgusting? Because it produces genetic aberrations, short term).

Hmm. If genetics were the only factor, then incest taboo would exist for all species. Yet that is not the case. Ask a cattle breeder, the alpha male of a wolf pack, or the queen bee (I could be mistaken about the last one, but wanted to add a matrilineal example). Genetically the mechanism is (me thinks) that inbreeding reinforces all traits, good and bad ones alike. It works for those species, where reproduction is limited to "the fittest genes". Not without risks, granted, and only when the species is willing to dispose of failed offspring. This wikipedia article is probably closer to the mark.  The taboo is common among primates, and thus the root causes are likely sociological, a consequence of the primate lifestyle? Marriage of close relatives cuts down the spreading of the social network to other clans.

Large age disparity may work the same way, but the case is not as strong.

[Is it cold in here?]

Mice prefer mating with others whose MHC is as different as possible.

Jim, never mind the soul patch, why not try tucking in your shirt?

Will tacos be the next meme food?

Did Jim want to eat a balled taco?

[Loki]

Incest taboo is also a cultural thing.* For example, sibling marriage was the norm for some time in the Egyptian royal family (but not among the commoners). Other cultures impose different limits on the definition of "family" for the purposes of the definition of incest. Surly the most prominent example in modern culture is the question whether cousins should be allowed to marry; but other cultures might consider two people "related" if they are related by marriage only, even if the marriage no longer exists.


*Incidentally, so is the notion that you should tuck your shirt in. This really puts the impact culture has on us into perspective.

[mtmerrick]

I hate tucking my shirt in. I refuse to do it 99% of the time.

[Carl-E]

I can't deal with one that's not tucked in.  The waistband of my pants feels weird without something there under it.  I tuck t-shirts and polos, too. 


But that's just what I'm used to, I guess. 



By the way, I'm back!  Didja miss me? 


And does anyone know what happened to the list of links on the comic homepage?  They're still listed in the sourcecode (yeah, I checked) but I don't see them in any browser (no, I haven't checked them all... just firefox and IE)

[Alerie Sand]

I reallyyy want tacos now...

I hadn't noticed his untucked shirt, maybe it was just a long day and it helps him unwind?

[Welu]

It's untucked in his first appearance. I don't like the look of tucked shirts. The only time I tucked mine was school.

As well as looking a bit younger, has Jim got a little thinner? It may just be the rolled up sleeves.

[westrim]

My opinion of incest prohibitions is that they're about as reasonable as left handedness persecution- which is more universal, interestingly, kind of killing "most other societies ban it too!" The relationship of consenting people is none of my business.

Age has not been an issue for humans in terms of genetic breakdown until recently.

It started being tacitly acceptable to tuck in dress shirts around the same time obesity rates started climbing hard. I don't tuck in, but that's because I have a long torso, so short of special (read: expensive) shirt, any that reaches my waist and allows decent range of motion without showing skin will also look baggy on me, which gets exacerbated by being tucked in. So, polo shirts one size larger than I really should wear are my work attire.

The comic and other links are gone while the false malware reading is troubleshot.

[Border Reiver]

It's not the sole patch Jim - it's because you look like Littlefinger.

[KOK]

If Jim does not want to tuck in his shirt, he should not wear a shirt meant to be tucked in. It looks sloppy.

[Mr. Doctor]

Screw shirts. Jim, you can do whatever you want. I like you so you earned it.

[Method of Madness]

Even if I wear a shirt like that I only tuck it in if I'm going to something formal.

[ankhtahr]

Even if I wear a shirt like that I only tuck it in if I'm going to something formal.

I only wear shirts like that when I'm going to something formal, and then I tuck them of course. Ordinary casual shirts I won't tuck.

[Method of Madness]

I'll wear one occasionally with jeans to a casual thing. I never roll up the sleeves, though. It's just not comfortable to me.

[Madmartigan]

I'm 25. While I can imagine that, were I single, dating someone say...ten years older than me, I can't imagine doing the reverse. That is, dating someone who's 25 when I'm 35 (I wasn't referring to dating a 15-year-old now, although obviously no interest in doing that either). Yes, that's just what works for me, not necessarily for anyone else, but when I look into another relationship and think "will it work?", it's really all I have to go on.

I do hope that made sense.

I can see it.  Personally, when I'm ready to settle down, I won't "actively" look for someone younger, but it certainly isn't something that would bother me.  Heck, I'd almost prefer someone 5 years younger. 

The only problem is a girl with daddy issues.  I certainly don't wanna be some quasi-daddy replacement figure in my SO's life, but in a romantic sense.  Which is about the only thing weird about really really young girls dating much older men.