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WCDT: 2535-2539 (16-20 September, 2013) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread

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ackblom12:
It's pretty rare that anything but a facial tattoo isn't easily removed, hidden or 'repaired', keep in mind. I'm well aware of the stigma that is associated with various body art, and I'm well aware of the problems that can come along with it. I'd be considered well beyond the point of no return in several ways by most, but outside of the genuine sense of loss if I had to change the way I choose to be, I could still get myself office ready if I absolutely had to.

But once again, the issue of condescendence has nothing to do with intent. It has to do with someone who isn't well familiar with it giving the advice as if it's something they had never thought of, despite probably having heard it hundreds of times. Given by those who have work done, it's generally considered a word of caution. Most of us have had that talk from someone within the community at some point, usually by an artist. However, when it's saddled up with a story of how someone else got rid of their visible work and then became a successful person, not so much.

I mean it sincerely when I say that while I am well aware the intent coming from you is not meant to be condescending, intent doesn't make as much difference as you might like.

Is it cold in here?:
That may be changing anyway. The teller I went to at the bank today had a nose ring.

GarandMarine:

--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 16 Sep 2013, 15:09 ---. So yeah, just be sure you never want to try to get an office job if you are going to do some of the crazier gauges or tattoos on the hands/neck/face.


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False, I have plenty of ink, I hold an office job with a highly respectable international business. Our president commented on my shoulder piece last time he was in country. He thought it looked cool and wanted to know what the text meant.


--- Quote from: Westrim on 16 Sep 2013, 15:03 ---
--- Quote from: Barmymoo on 16 Sep 2013, 14:46 ---As has been said elsewhere, very few reputable tattoo artists or piercers will work on someone who is drunk. I'm all in favor of people choosing not to have body mods if they don't want to - but it is none of anyone else's business if someone wants to get a tattoo or piercing that someone else doesn't approve of. It's almost the only behavior which doesn't in any way harm anyone else at all (the only possible exception to this is if someone gets extremely offensive slogans or symbols tattooed onto them).

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The large number of drunken tattoo stories out there doesn't really make that point comforting. No one I can recall here has said anything close to disapproving meddling. Most human behaviors affect no one else most of the time.

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It's down right illegal in most states. I can tell you in the modern day and age this is almost 100% full of shit. You have to legally consent to the tattoo (probably piercing as well) in the majority of states and formally acknowledge aftercare. Just like sex you cannot legally consent to anything while intoxicated. Parlors can get closed DOWN for that shit. Interestingly most of the people I know with drunken tattoo stories don't have any ink and except for one old Vietnam Vet who was hammered in Saigon on a pass one night, I haven't met any one outside of a couple specific social groups that tend to do their own ink (Biker gangs) that have drunk tattoos.

The stereotype of ink as a drunken mistake is some of the most prejudiced, unfounded horseshit I have ever heard and I have heard a lot of BS over the years.

Zebediah:
Honestly, there are so many, many people getting tattoos and piercings these days that the prejudice against it is going to be unsustainable before long. Especially in certain fields, like software development - you want creative people, you have to take into account that they have to express their individuality. In my case, it's long hair, which doesn't even raise an eyebrow in the software field any more. But back in the 90s, it was very much a case of "You want my programming skills? The hair is part of the package. Ask me to cut my hair, I walk." To a certain extent, it worked to my advantage - people assumed that  if I could get away with keeping my hair long, I had to be pretty damned good.

Emperor Norton:

--- Quote from: ackblom12 on 16 Sep 2013, 17:11 ---I mean it sincerely when I say that while I am well aware the intent coming from you is not meant to be condescending, intent doesn't make as much difference as you might like.

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And out of all the people in the thread, you thought the person who needs to be called out is the person who said "Do whatever you want with your body, just make sure you are aware of the ramifications"?

Seriously? In a thread where people are saying things like "ruining their natural beauty" you want to pull out the fact that I said something that was a straight up truth about how the way the world works and make a big deal about it, and express how you have too much vitriol to it to even respond fully?

Apparently, if I was covered with tatts, this same advice would be fine, but because I personally haven't chosen to get any at this point in my life, I'm not allowed to mention it? Oh no, its been said a hundred times! Who cares. Its not untrue, and just because I'm not in the "scene" doesn't make me any less capable of realizing it. (hint: I've known enough people who faced this problem to understand, I'm not THAT old).

ALSO: That was in a part of the post where I was talking about my OWN decisions on tattoos for me personally. I mentioned it as a reason I wouldn't personally get a tattoo in certain areas, and then as an aside added that people should keep it in mind.

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