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4 (2.5%)

Tongue

6 (3.7%)

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2 (1.2%)

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8 (4.9%)

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7 (4.3%)

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55 (33.7%)

Total Members Voted: 82

[ackblom12]

It's pretty rare that anything but a facial tattoo isn't easily removed, hidden or 'repaired', keep in mind. I'm well aware of the stigma that is associated with various body art, and I'm well aware of the problems that can come along with it. I'd be considered well beyond the point of no return in several ways by most, but outside of the genuine sense of loss if I had to change the way I choose to be, I could still get myself office ready if I absolutely had to.

But once again, the issue of condescendence has nothing to do with intent. It has to do with someone who isn't well familiar with it giving the advice as if it's something they had never thought of, despite probably having heard it hundreds of times. Given by those who have work done, it's generally considered a word of caution. Most of us have had that talk from someone within the community at some point, usually by an artist. However, when it's saddled up with a story of how someone else got rid of their visible work and then became a successful person, not so much.

I mean it sincerely when I say that while I am well aware the intent coming from you is not meant to be condescending, intent doesn't make as much difference as you might like.

[Is it cold in here?]

That may be changing anyway. The teller I went to at the bank today had a nose ring.

[GarandMarine]

. So yeah, just be sure you never want to try to get an office job if you are going to do some of the crazier gauges or tattoos on the hands/neck/face.

False, I have plenty of ink, I hold an office job with a highly respectable international business. Our president commented on my shoulder piece last time he was in country. He thought it looked cool and wanted to know what the text meant.

As has been said elsewhere, very few reputable tattoo artists or piercers will work on someone who is drunk. I'm all in favor of people choosing not to have body mods if they don't want to - but it is none of anyone else's business if someone wants to get a tattoo or piercing that someone else doesn't approve of. It's almost the only behavior which doesn't in any way harm anyone else at all (the only possible exception to this is if someone gets extremely offensive slogans or symbols tattooed onto them).

The large number of drunken tattoo stories out there doesn't really make that point comforting. No one I can recall here has said anything close to disapproving meddling. Most human behaviors affect no one else most of the time.

It's down right illegal in most states. I can tell you in the modern day and age this is almost 100% full of shit. You have to legally consent to the tattoo (probably piercing as well) in the majority of states and formally acknowledge aftercare. Just like sex you cannot legally consent to anything while intoxicated. Parlors can get closed DOWN for that shit. Interestingly most of the people I know with drunken tattoo stories don't have any ink and except for one old Vietnam Vet who was hammered in Saigon on a pass one night, I haven't met any one outside of a couple specific social groups that tend to do their own ink (Biker gangs) that have drunk tattoos.

The stereotype of ink as a drunken mistake is some of the most prejudiced, unfounded horseshit I have ever heard and I have heard a lot of BS over the years.

[Zebediah]

Honestly, there are so many, many people getting tattoos and piercings these days that the prejudice against it is going to be unsustainable before long. Especially in certain fields, like software development - you want creative people, you have to take into account that they have to express their individuality. In my case, it's long hair, which doesn't even raise an eyebrow in the software field any more. But back in the 90s, it was very much a case of "You want my programming skills? The hair is part of the package. Ask me to cut my hair, I walk." To a certain extent, it worked to my advantage - people assumed that  if I could get away with keeping my hair long, I had to be pretty damned good.

[Emperor Norton]

I mean it sincerely when I say that while I am well aware the intent coming from you is not meant to be condescending, intent doesn't make as much difference as you might like.

And out of all the people in the thread, you thought the person who needs to be called out is the person who said "Do whatever you want with your body, just make sure you are aware of the ramifications"?

Seriously? In a thread where people are saying things like "ruining their natural beauty" you want to pull out the fact that I said something that was a straight up truth about how the way the world works and make a big deal about it, and express how you have too much vitriol to it to even respond fully?

Apparently, if I was covered with tatts, this same advice would be fine, but because I personally haven't chosen to get any at this point in my life, I'm not allowed to mention it? Oh no, its been said a hundred times! Who cares. Its not untrue, and just because I'm not in the "scene" doesn't make me any less capable of realizing it. (hint: I've known enough people who faced this problem to understand, I'm not THAT old).

ALSO: That was in a part of the post where I was talking about my OWN decisions on tattoos for me personally. I mentioned it as a reason I wouldn't personally get a tattoo in certain areas, and then as an aside added that people should keep it in mind.

[Emperor Norton]

. So yeah, just be sure you never want to try to get an office job if you are going to do some of the crazier gauges or tattoos on the hands/neck/face.

False, I have plenty of ink, I hold an office job with a highly respectable international business. Our president commented on my shoulder piece last time he was in country. He thought it looked cool and wanted to know what the text meant.

1. There are always exceptions. While its getting laxer, it does have a strong possibility of affecting your chances of employment.
2. Shoulder piece doesn't sound like its on your neck/hands/face. (possibly on your neck I suppose if its rather large.)

[Welu]

I think part of the reason you've been called out even though there have been some vile opinions, is you're the only one who actually told people what they should not do with their own body. It was closely phrased that way, at least.
While no one has directly said this is the case, rather than the point being, "Don't get tattoos because you'll be judged on then and possibly discriminated against in the workplace." should it not be, "Don't judge people on their appearance."? Not getting modifications will not make people more tolerant of them.

[Emperor Norton]

I think part of the reason you've been called out even though there have been some vile opinions, is you're the only one who actually told people what they should not do with their own body. It was closely phrased that way, at least.
While no one has directly said this is the case, rather than the point being, "Don't get tattoos because you'll be judged on then and possibly discriminated against in the workplace." should it not be, "Don't judge people on their appearance."? Not getting modifications will not make people more tolerant of them.

Whether you or I judge anyone based on their appearance won't change the policies of a corporation, it won't change the people interviewing you. Maybe if enough people did it throughout the world to the point that they had no choice, it could change, but I'm not putting myself on the front line of that, and people should really think about whether they want to be. Maybe I worded it badly, but what I was saying was "This is why I won't get a tattoo in certain areas, and its a good idea to be aware of this issue."

I know what its like to be unemployed and have a family. Its hard enough and scary enough as it is.

Its not hippie land. If I get a tattoo on my face and believe in not judging people based on their appearance, that doesn't stop anyone else from judging me for it.

If people really find "beware of prejudice, it exists", to be more offensive than people espousing how people are ruining their bodies I'm not even sure how to react to that.

[ackblom12]

Everyone else had already been called out. Also I wasn't really calling you out specifically, just the line of reasoning. I apologize if that came out as a direct attack.

Me telling you it's condescending is not me saying it's more offensive than anyone saying that it's incredibly stupid to do such a thing to your body. I called it out because whether you like it or not, it's a bit of 'advice' that has issues depending on the source and the person's understanding of the community. The fact that you weren't hateful does not cause all problems with it to go away.

[mustang6172]

I'm thinking this story arc would have been more interesting if Hanners had gone with Claire instead of Marten.

[Kugai]

Now there's a thought considering the dichotomy that that would present. 

Especially with Hanners having piercings of her own and her OCD issues.

[Is it cold in here?]

Hannelore's been a terrific friend for Marigold and could sympathize with Claire's anxieties.

[Schmee]

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[Skewbrow]

This is the Faye we know and love.

Claire will learn in due time.

[Kugai]

The Snarkasarus strikes.

[CrowFairy]

Did anyone else think the comic looks a little ... fuzzy? The text looks fine. But the drawings look a little blurry.

Edit: As of 3:13 PM CST on 9-17-13, the comic looks fine.

[Arancaytar]

Re: hand-holding in yesterday's strip. Dammit, when will Jeph stop teasing!

[pwhodges]

Never.

[Tova]

Never.

I certainly hope he never does. It's half of my enjoyment of this strip.

Today's strip: I am stealing Marten's last line, that was great.

[Akima]

Classic Faye. Classic Marten too.

[Carl-E]

Re: piercings & shit (late again...) 

I have a small gold hoop that I got in my left ear in 1988.  I think I've removed it briefly... three times?  For job interviews.  It went back in after I got the job. Oh, yeah, and an MRI last year.  Don't want anything torn out... damn, that's 25 years now. 


Doesn't change the fact that, after losing my main job last year at the age of 50, my father's only job seeking advice was to look at me and tell me to "lose the god-damned earring".     (yeah, he was 79 at the time...)

[94ssd]

As for preventing employment, I work with the theatre department at my school and some actor's tattoos are a problem. Small ones can be covered up, but at a certain point we can't afford to spend hundreds of dollars and an extra hour before a show covering up "Ensemble Member #12's" full sleeve, and the concealer will start to separate under the lights anyway.

If there's one career where you need to consider the ramifications of modifying your body it's acting. Small facial piercings, fine for theatre. Small tattoos or ones that normally not visible, usually fine. Anything else and you start to slowly but surely limit the range of roles you can be cast in, and the LAST thing a working actor can afford to do is limit their castability.

That said, I still plan on getting some tattoos at some point. The place I work at now allows any tattoos no problem, facial piercings just have to be taken out at work.

[LTK]

Today's was comedy gold. Wondermark did a really funny one as well. I wish there were more Tuesday comics!

Re: piercings & shit (late again...) 

I have a small gold hoop that I got in my left ear in 1988.  I think I've removed it briefly... three times?  For job interviews.  It went back in after I got the job. Oh, yeah, and an MRI last year.  Don't want anything torn out... damn, that's 25 years now. 


Doesn't change the fact that, after losing my main job last year at the age of 50, my father's only job seeking advice was to look at me and tell me to "lose the god-damned earring".     (yeah, he was 79 at the time...)

But gold is not ferromagnetic. 

[pwhodges]

I guess that it could still produce artefacts through shadowing.

[ZoeB]

I have my ears pierced, but that's all.
I've considered a small, tasteful tattoo in a discrete place - no more than 1" square - but decided against.

That's my choice.

I'll be darned though if I impose my own standards on anyone else!

I'd advise my son of the likely consequences of body piercings and permanent in-your-face body art on employment prospects - as well as safety issues if he goes into search and rescue, as he wants to do at the moment. But it's his choice. There's no "moral" issue here, just one of individual taste. I've never seen the appeal - but how many see the appeal in an activity I enjoy, painting and decaling 1/144 WWI aircraft models? Darn fewer than who have ink!   

[Is it cold in here?]

Any conductor can have eddy currents. Consider magnetic braking and then what happens if the magnetic field is moving.

[rschill]

I don't have any tattoos or piercings.  I think they're almost always cool and/or sexy as hell on others though, but I just can't go through with it myself.  I can't think of a way I could do it and still feel genuine about it.  Maybe it's my age.  And it's too late to start now as I get an eczema flare up at the least irritation. 

The closest thing I've come to being prejudiced was one time a few months ago when I started to get offended when I saw a cop with full on sleeve tattoos.  I  started to say "Back when I was your age, just having those damn near made probable cause, kid" then I thought better of it. 

What a strange way for my father's red neck to catch up to me. 

[Welu]

I don't think you meant "too late" as in being too old but age-wise, it's never too late.

Grandma shows off first tattoo at 86

[celticgeek]

Tweet from Jeph:

 J P H J C Q S        ✔ @jephjacques
fell down 3 times. there probably will not be a comic tonight. I'm sorry.
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Sorry about that, Jeph.  Get well soon!  And don't worry about the comic, we will survive.

Iechyd da!

[Akima]

Any conductor can have eddy currents.

Excellent post timing. It is Léon Foucault's birthday today.

[Carl-E]

But gold is not ferromagnetic. 

It's only 10 karat, so 10/24 gold.  The rest could be nearly anything, but may well be magnetic. 

Besides, protocol at the hospital is to remove all jewelry, just in case. 

[Barmymoo]

Yeah I wouldn't take that chance, no matter how much I trust science (I am not sure I trust jewellers!).

[Mlle Germain]

I think if I ever decided on getting ear piercings (I would not want any others, I think), I would be nervous just like Claire. And presumably like Hanners in the sence that I'd be worried constantly about them getting infected - I get infections very easily. Ah well, maybe some day I'll try it. Then I'll just have to be as fastidious about them as Hanners was.

[Carl-E]

Why is Hanners blonde? 

It was from dunking her head into a bucket of hydrogen peroxide to clean all 10 piercings at once...

[Welu]

Eh... A QC joke in the question/punchline format? I like it.

[jwhouk]

Why is Hanners blonde? 

It was from dunking her head into a bucket of hydrogen peroxide to clean all 10 piercings at once...

Carl-E wins thread.

[94ssd]

No comic tonight due to Jeph's back woes. I've had that experience and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Hope he feels better soon.

[Is it cold in here?]

A back spasm was the first time I experienced something I'd read about, which was sweating in pain.

[KOK]

I would have thought that it was the trainer's job to prevent such injuries.

[Border Reiver]

I don't have any tattoos or piercings.  I think they're almost always cool and/or sexy as hell on others though, but I just can't go through with it myself.  I can't think of a way I could do it and still feel genuine about it.  Maybe it's my age.  And it's too late to start now as I get an eczema flare up at the least irritation. 

The closest thing I've come to being prejudiced was one time a few months ago when I started to get offended when I saw a cop with full on sleeve tattoos.  I  started to say "Back when I was your age, just having those damn near made probable cause, kid" then I thought better of it. 

What a strange way for my father's red neck to catch up to me.

It happens. 

[techkid]

No comic tonight due to Jeph's back woes. I've had that experience and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Hope he feels better soon.

Seen it in my dad. Not cool even at second-hand experience. All the best and take it easy, Jeph!

[Welu]

Feel better, Jeph. 

[CrowFairy]

Best wishes, Jeph. Some steroid shots should help with the pain.

This is especially close to home because my mom has ruptured discs in her back three times now, one of which was a couple of weeks ago. v.v

[ankhtahr]

Yep, just in case you forget your hate for the forums for a second and look into this thread:
Get well soon!

[Kugai]

Take care Jeph and get well soon.

[Squiddlywinx]

Best wishes to Jeph.

But Amir doesn't get his own friend.

[Pilchard123]

It's WMG time!

Today's comic is a sheet of characters. As far as I can make out, none of the characters that have explicitly been written out permanently (or only had bit-parts) are there, which suggests that those that are will be returning at some point. Gabby (3 right, 3 down) and Raven (2, 3) are both on there. Hmm...

[weisbm]

Jeph,

Feel better soon!

[Method of Madness]

As for written out semi-permanently (because nobody's died, I don't think), add Padma to that list.

[Schmee]

add Padma to that list.

...but then again, Amir is missing his beard, and looks slightly androgynous...

[/wishfulthinking]