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WCDT: 2593-2597 (09-13 December 2013) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
blacksinow:
--- Quote from: judemorrigan on 12 Dec 2013, 09:47 ---Meh, she's awkward and socially maladjusted sure. Therapy probably wouldn't hurt. I'm less convinced that it would be properly described as a pathology and even less convinced that excusing poor behavior on her part as a result of that maladjustment would be doing her any favors. Sometimes calling people on their crap *is* the appropriate thing for friends to do.
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This. This is exactly what I've been saying.
PthariensFlame:
--- Quote from: Shjade on 12 Dec 2013, 09:52 ---Marigold's terrible at dealing with or thinking about other people. In other news, the sky is blue.
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And it's the fact that people actually expect her to behave that way that, at this point, makes me think it's truly pathological.
Schmorgluck:
--- Quote from: judemorrigan on 12 Dec 2013, 08:58 ---Is there any reason to believe that Marigold has a mental condition?
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Here's a list of questions about Marigold:
* Has Marigold shown a marked or persistent fear of one or more social situations wherein there is exposure to unfamiliar people or possible scrutiny by others?
* Has Marigold's core fears shown as centered on behaving in a way that would be humiliating or embarrassing?
* Did Marigold's exposure to these phobic situations consistently evokes an anxiety response, which in some cases may be in the form of a panic attack?
* Has Marigold shown some insight that the fear is excessive or unreasonable?
* Did Marigold show a tendancy to avoid said phobic situations or, when forced to attend them, show significant anxiety or distress?
* Did Marigold seem to suffer from significant social impairment from that, and/or has shown marked distress about that?
* Do we know of a substance Marigold might be taking, or another issue she might have, that could explain her behaviour?
* Can we clearly trace other Marigold's issues (like the signs she's shown of clinical depression) as being caused by the above, as opposed to the other way around?
I leave it to you to consider all these questions. They are not random, at all.
judemorrigan:
Oh, believe you me. I'm well aware of how not-random those questions are. The only reason I've never been diagnosed with social anxiety disorder is that I've never sought a diagnosis out. And fair enough, I suppose. But I still don't think it's a reason to not call her out on bad behavior.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting anyone tell her she's a bad person who's bad. But the fundamental message behind blacksisnow's suggetion is sound, even if it could be phrased rather more gently. (ie, something rather more along the lines of, "Marigold. We're your friends. We care about you. But you're acting terribly. You're going to seriously damage your relationships if you keep it up." And then offer what help one can, but not by enabling the bad behavior.)
NotAwesomeAnymore:
When people suggest Marigold has a mental disorder, do they mean she has something that needs to be treated with drugs? Because I suppose you could diagnose her and put her under a label. But I have a feeling she had bad social experiences when she was younger, and is naturally somewhat introverted -- and now she has some issues which could be resolved with a combination of therapy (to unpack the bad social experiences from when she was younger) and some good social experiences. I don't think there's an inherent chemical imbalance there.
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