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Star Wars: Rebels
Gladstone:
It's exciting that they're rescuing Thrawn from the dustbin of the old EU, but kind of a waste to use him in Rebels. This is only a few years before Episode IV, isn't it? So he'll get a few episodes/a full season to be a bad-ass, only to have his accomplishments swept under the rug by the time A New Hope takes place. He would work so much better as a post-RotJ villain, as he was originally.
BenRG:
I'm hoping that Thrawn will be as significant a figure in the post-RoTJ revised canon as he was in the old EU, maybe even more significant. Maybe he was the reason (either by intent or simply due to the fact of his presence) that the old Rebel leadership was marginalised by the New Republic.
In my current headcanon, he was responsible for the 'birth' of Lord Snoke as a threat by arranging the assassination of Sabine Wren, Duchess of Mandalore and wife of Jedi Master Ezra Bridger.
Case:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 24 Nov 2016, 04:58 ---I'm hoping that Thrawn will be as significant a figure in the post-RoTJ revised canon as he was in the old EU, maybe even more significant. Maybe he was the reason (either by intent or simply due to the fact of his presence) that the old Rebel leadership was marginalised by the New Republic.
In my current headcanon, he was responsible for the 'birth' of Lord Snoke as a threat by arranging the assassination of Sabine Wren, Duchess of Mandalore and wife of Jedi Master Ezra Bridger.
--- End quote ---
But "When I am gone, the last of the Jedi will you be ..."? (E.g. I vaguely recall that being an item of discussion between Luke & Mara when they encounter Joruus C'Baoth ... though that was EU)
There can't be any (Order-trained) Jedi prior to RoTJ, no? (Probably not even prior to A new Hope, though technically, nobody ever said that Ben & Yoda were the last Order-trained survivors until RoTJ)
That's also a minor peeve of mine about Rebels: Jedi apprentices all over the place. You know they'll all either die, or fall to the dark side. :oops:
Neko_Ali:
Or that Yoda didn't know about them. Remember that after Order 66 the Jedi who did not die scattered to far planets and went into hiding. Many probably forswore/hid their abilities like Kanan did. Yoda and Obi-wan knew of each other and the Skywalker children since they were there together at the end. They had no idea if anyone else had survived. Obi-wan sent out a Holocron message, the one Kanan had, warning everyone to go into hiding. And some must exist, since there is an entire order of Inquisitors devoted to finding and then either recruiting or killing them. They can't spend all their time finding untrained force users in the Imperial Academies or hunting down force sensitive infants. Which is the other thing, though technically true. There are plenty of other force sensitive beings and younglings out there who were never Jedi. Some might argue that it might be time for the Jedi to fade out and a new order of force users to take it's place.
BenRG:
That Yoda line is a huge continuity sword hanging over things, isn't it? Kanan and Ezra's very existence strikes me as potentially an enormous continuity flaw. If I'd been involved in the creation of Rebels, I would have fought tooth-and-nail against having any Jedi in it other than a possible Obi-Wan cameo because of this. I would argue that it wasn't necessary to tell the story of the early day of the various uprisings against the Empire.
One explanation (and one that I like) is that Yoda was quite capable of lying by omission if need be and that, by keeping Ezra and Luke away from each other, he was trying to create a 'firewall' where one falling or getting killed would only minimally endanger the other. I did get the impression in ESB and RotJ that Yoda felt that Luke was an imperfect tool at best and he thus wasn't likely to take his last Padawan into his confidence about the back-up Jedi involved with one of the other Rebel factions.
Another possibility is that Kanan was so good at masking his Force signature (and taught Ezra to do the same) that Yoda wasn't aware of them.
The final possibility is that Yoda was a bit of a snob; in his view, anyone not trained by a Temple-recognised Master and anyone not recognised as a Jedi by a Master of the Order weren't really 'Jedi'. So, Ezra and Ashoka were just force-using renegades, not true Jedi.
The simple fact that Rebels is prominently placed in the official canon suggests that Ezra's story is going to turn out to be super-significant for the long-term continuity of Star Wars, which is why I suspect that he and the crew of the Ghost are going to turn out to have a significant influence in Sequel Trilogy events.
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