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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2350 on: 10 Jan 2011, 13:38 »

Yeah Gibson torpedoed that. They're still making the Firebird-X though, so there's still plenty of ammunition available to Gibson-haters.

EDIT: Also, like, the Zoot Suit SG, the Dusk Tiger, actually every fucking robot guitar ever. Jesus.
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« Reply #2351 on: 10 Jan 2011, 13:48 »

Flying V's are easy to play sitting down, actually.

And they are AWESOME

Really?  That's fascinating, it seems to me like they would just slide right off your leg.  Hmmm.  That is pretty awesome.


...have a luthier inlay "I'm With Stupid" on the fretboard [of the reverse Flying V].

Haha, nice
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« Reply #2352 on: 10 Jan 2011, 14:17 »

You just play the V in classical position. Pretty simple.
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« Reply #2353 on: 10 Jan 2011, 14:18 »

Protip: put your right knee in the middle of the V.

Like so:



(yeah I know it's fuckface from Nickelback but it's the best picture I could find demonstrating what I mean)
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« Reply #2354 on: 10 Jan 2011, 14:45 »

Yeah Gibson torpedoed that. They're still making the Firebird-X though, so there's still plenty of ammunition available to Gibson-haters.

EDIT: Also, like, the Zoot Suit SG, the Dusk Tiger, actually every fucking robot guitar ever. Jesus.

The worst Robot is the "Les Paul Junior"..because goddammit Gibson, it has TWO pickups. Juniors had one, Specials had two. Jackwagons.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2355 on: 10 Jan 2011, 14:52 »

Protip: put your right knee in the middle of the V.

Like so:



(yeah I know it's fuckface from Nickelback but it's the best picture I could find demonstrating what I mean)
That is instructional, but he is having coitus with the tiny string-through holes in the back, not actually playing. True story. I read it on the internet.
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« Reply #2356 on: 10 Jan 2011, 15:29 »

Buh.

I never thought of holding a guitar like that. I wonder if it would work with my Les Paul. It should if it is referred to as classical position, right? I always cramp up my shoulder trying to play sitting down with any amount of speed. Being able to extend it more should really help.
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« Reply #2357 on: 10 Jan 2011, 15:44 »

Correct. It is "classical" position. I use it a good chunk of the time with my Telecaster.
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« Reply #2358 on: 10 Jan 2011, 16:41 »

I always hold my guitars like that, but then I only play "classical" guitars. 
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« Reply #2359 on: 10 Jan 2011, 17:19 »

Clipped the wires? Seriously, what the hell was your tech on when he swapped the pups? That is just ridiculous.

Wasn't my guitar, just a horror story I heard. As per mine, they seriously tried to give me shit about my pickup height not being factory standard, which is a "clear indication" that I had replaced the pickups and then put the originals back to fuck with them. They tried to give me shit about neglecting it, they tried to give me shit about buckle rash. FUCK Gibson.
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« Reply #2360 on: 10 Jan 2011, 18:00 »

I tried it, and I find that it works depending on the chair you are in. I was sitting in a drum throne, and it was pretty untenable, but sitting on a wider chair it works great.
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« Reply #2361 on: 10 Jan 2011, 21:16 »

That or have a luthier inlay "I'm With Stupid" on the fretboard.
But the audience won't be able to read it if you stand by the drummer constantly.
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« Reply #2362 on: 11 Jan 2011, 08:37 »

Does that arrow come with a bow?
Does if you play guitar for Sigur Ros.

o/

Also the zoot suit SG is beautiful

I'm probably the only person on this forum who agrees.
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« Reply #2363 on: 11 Jan 2011, 14:02 »

That or have a luthier inlay "I'm With Stupid" on the fretboard.
But the audience won't be able to read it if you stand by the drummer constantly.

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« Reply #2364 on: 11 Jan 2011, 14:04 »

It's a hat trick of wrong!
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« Reply #2365 on: 11 Jan 2011, 14:28 »

in the beginning there was a squier strat.


and then there was a split single coil/ humbuckery bridge pickup and shiny volume knob


and it was good.

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« Reply #2366 on: 11 Jan 2011, 14:34 »

That. is. awesome.

Guys, I want a LP Jr. NOW!
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« Reply #2367 on: 11 Jan 2011, 14:37 »

Aw dang, Jon. Not a Strat guy, but I do enjoy good mods. Nice jorb!

(psst, let me know how the humbucker sounds. Been thinking about getting one for my Tele)
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« Reply #2368 on: 11 Jan 2011, 15:16 »

Hey Jon, that looks really good! How much did the mod cost you? I've got a Bullet here waiting to be torn apart, but I haven't been able to find any decent humbuckers that cost less than the guitar is worth.
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« Reply #2369 on: 11 Jan 2011, 15:27 »

I wouldn't call myself good at reading pickups, but it seems pretty versatile. From what i can tell it's actually a split single coil, and it sure sounds good and twangy in the bridge position but with distortion it sounds way more like a humbucker and I like it way better than my tele's single coils for that. So far it's got my approval. Sure beats the weakass nasal pickups that were in it before. That being said, I just put new strings on so it'll be a few days before i know exactly what they sound like.

Fraser: it cost me $99.49, but that includes the cost of shipping, a trem arm that didn't fit, two nuts, a soldering iron, and an extra knob because it came in a set of two. The pickup itself was about 30 bucks i think.
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« Reply #2370 on: 12 Jan 2011, 03:32 »

One pickup, one knob is the way to go. Or If I did it, I think no knob. But definitely I like the idea of a guitar with no controls or very few (says the guys with too many do-whatzits). In other news I'm getting guitar wood for these daylighters I'm watching get their colors on fbook.

Kauer gtrs. I'm not enthused about the head stock but I could live w/ it.
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« Reply #2371 on: 12 Jan 2011, 03:35 »

Oh man.

Ooooh man.
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« Reply #2372 on: 12 Jan 2011, 07:01 »

well, this picture is a little better, and you can see the pearloidiness. The guitar is really shiny now. you can also see the scuff mark in the poly finish where i would stick a pick under the pickguard. can't do that now.


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« Reply #2373 on: 12 Jan 2011, 07:17 »

That is really nice work sir. You had me searching for single hole pickguards for a while. hurr.

Does anyone else like their copy more than the  guitar its a copy of? My electra plays and sounds better than any ES-335 i've ever played. The neck is deliciously thin, the neck pickup is SUPER LOUD AND BASSY. So much so that ive modeled my entire sound around it and pretty much feel incomplete playing anything else.

Others must feel this way about their geetars?
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« Reply #2374 on: 12 Jan 2011, 08:25 »

I like my hollowbody for everything but the combined pickup sound. Which is a shame. I may rectify this by replacing the pickups with Lollar or Novak PAF reissues.

I have never liked original Fender Strats but I have a huge crush on Squier and knockoff ones.

Also Jon <3
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« Reply #2375 on: 12 Jan 2011, 08:51 »

woo squier modding o/

As for Strats, I like strats! Not everything about them, though. The selector switch is too easy to hit while playing, having two tone knobs is unnecessary, and for having three pickups I would have hoped they'd have more tones that I actually like (that last one is more about my personal taste). Aside from that, the ergonomics are superb, they feel great and play nice and look nice too. They're kind of victims of their own popularity and ubiquity and I don't know as that's really fair. 
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« Reply #2376 on: 12 Jan 2011, 08:59 »

I don't think I could really live with the single pickup plus volume approach myself. I tend to change around with coils-splitting and positions a lot, and I reallly don't want to buy a ton of guitars for every setting, sure it looks pretty cool/trupunx/whatever sometimes but i really wouldn't want to miss out on either filthy strat-tones, glassy cleans or Ka-Thwumps.
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« Reply #2377 on: 12 Jan 2011, 13:29 »

So...

I just looked up the pedal thread to see what everyone had to say about the subject.

I never realized i had so many desirable pedals!

Boss CE-2 chorus (never use)
EHX Deluxe Memory Man (never use)
Boss FZ-2 Hyper Fuzz
Boss PS-3 Pitch Shifter/Delay

There are more, but I really only use delay with any regulartiy. I actually really like the Dan-Echo, its pretty warm sounding.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2378 on: 12 Jan 2011, 14:48 »

woo squier modding o/

As for Strats, I like strats! Not everything about them, though. The selector switch is too easy to hit while playing, having two tone knobs is unnecessary, and for having three pickups I would have hoped they'd have more tones that I actually like (that last one is more about my personal taste). Aside from that, the ergonomics are superb, they feel great and play nice and look nice too. They're kind of victims of their own popularity and ubiquity and I don't know as that's really fair. 

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Idunno about the selector switch, I've never accidentally hit a Strat switch in my life, clone or otherwise. The volume knob, though, is positioned very poorly though. It is absolutely impossible to palm mute a Strat like you would any other guitar; the bottom of your hand is absolutely guaranteed to hit that volume knob no matter what unless you change your picking hand's posture. And that is super uncomfortable and makes you sacrifice a lot of speed and accuracy.

We do agree on the same basic thing though: one should never have to alter their playing style to accomodate the guitar they're using. It's not faaaaaair.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2379 on: 12 Jan 2011, 16:14 »

Jon, Patrick, would love some tips on Squire fuckery. Wanna swap out pickups, pickguard, and repaint mine. Never used a solder iron, never fucked with wiring on a guitar before.
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« Reply #2380 on: 12 Jan 2011, 17:02 »

Way easier than you'd think.  A kick-ass mod I have on my strat is a switch that bypasses the pickup selector so the bridge pickup can be always on.  This gives a telecaster like sound when used with the neck pickup, and an almost acoustic shimmery sound when used with the neck/middle.

This video kind of sucks, but it's what I'm talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07YyulSEQo0
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« Reply #2381 on: 12 Jan 2011, 18:26 »

I would agree that it's surprisingly easy. There are lots of resources available online for wiring charts, the one i used was Seymour Duncan's site, which has a whole bunch of them in nearly every conceivable arrangement. There are also many different places to order parts from like stewart mcdonald, guitarfetish USAGC and warmoth for starters. The issue that sticks out in my mind of being the most problematic is ensuring compatibility - what kind of pickups is your guitar routed for, what kind of volume and tone potentiometers do the pickups require (250k? 500k? it will say on the wiring chart), does the pickguard have the same number of screwholes as the old one (mine didn't, but it just meant i had to drill a few holes. Scary! count before you buy so you can order more screws if you need to. hell, just order a bunch anyways), does it even fit - that kind of thing. If you're thinking of different strat pickups, you're in luck because there are a billion different kinds and they'll all fit that standard pickguard shape unless otherwise noted.

As for soldering, I used 60/40 rosin core electrical solder, and from what I read, it is absolutely imperative that it be rosin core. They also make lead-free rosin-core solder, which is apparently slightly trickier but hey, there ain't lead in it. If joining two wires, wrap them together so they have a solid mechanical bond in addition to the solder bond. there are a bunch of youtube videos that explain and show this way better. It may seem like overkill, but wear safety glasses. solder's hot. Work in a well - ventilated area. That's all i can think of at the moment. Finishing is a whole 'nother kettle of fish which i am kind of terrified about a little.
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« Reply #2382 on: 13 Jan 2011, 07:46 »

Jon, Patrick, would love some tips on Squire fuckery. Wanna swap out pickups, pickguard, and repaint mine. Never used a solder iron, never fucked with wiring on a guitar before.

You do know that at one point I had the pickup wires held to the pickup switch with packaging tape, right?
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« Reply #2383 on: 13 Jan 2011, 08:13 »

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« Reply #2384 on: 13 Jan 2011, 08:54 »

Jon's probably doesn't give him asstons of microphonic feedback though...
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« Reply #2385 on: 13 Jan 2011, 09:36 »



Guitar lineup for my band's show last night. L-R Squier P-Bass, my Fender Lead II and my new Douglas Melody Maker copy (Rondo Music BIATCH), guitarist's Epiphone Les Paul.
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« Reply #2386 on: 13 Jan 2011, 11:03 »

AWWWWWWWWWW RONDO!
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« Reply #2387 on: 13 Jan 2011, 12:20 »

Fuck yeah Douglas/Agile and Fender Lead!
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« Reply #2388 on: 13 Jan 2011, 12:47 »

It's also less likely to electrocute him to death.
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« Reply #2389 on: 13 Jan 2011, 14:27 »

I don't know how to solder, but I do know how to google. :)

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« Reply #2390 on: 13 Jan 2011, 14:30 »

Unrelated to to the modding discussion...

How do I play so that my notes blend together better, instead of going "plink plink plink" very distinctly? My current playing sounds like a five-year-old sitting at a piano.
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« Reply #2391 on: 13 Jan 2011, 22:08 »

Listen to Billy Talent. I've caught shit for showing love for them before, but Ian D'Sa is basically the greatest genius I can think of who makes a living out of contemporary popular music. It's to the point where, quite honestly, I feel justified in being as belligerent a dick about that guitarist as I want. The man is made of solid gold, even if the rest of the band is composed of talentless fuckholes who just play/sing the most basic accompaniment possible to his baller-ass playing.

He is one of my prime influences as far as playing style goes, and he ranks with George Harrison and Jimi Hendrix there. I refuse to take that back.
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« Reply #2392 on: 13 Jan 2011, 23:13 »

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« Reply #2393 on: 13 Jan 2011, 23:31 »

also, i just bought a squier precision bass clone for fifty bucks and am going to spraypaint the living fuck out of it!
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« Reply #2394 on: 13 Jan 2011, 23:54 »

I just sent an E-mail to Tim from Bare Knuckle to get him to make me a disgusting-sounding pickup for my 7-string.

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« Reply #2395 on: 14 Jan 2011, 01:11 »

I've  been playing about 4 years and my first guitar, Squier affinity Strat, is in pretty good shape considering all I've put it through, it really has been a workhorse. But, probably reflecting its Indonesian manufacture, the jack socket is completely shot. Worse still, the jack plate is constantly loose as one of the two screws has scraped away the thread in the wood where it's been wearing away over the years. I guess the solution is to drill a larger hole, get a screw to match and file at the hole in the plate so it fits.

I've also been considering upgrades for the pickups and I'm after authentic vintage sounds with modern leanings rather than all out rock death machines.

Is it worth saving her for the sentimental value or should I save up for a Mexican built Strat?
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« Reply #2396 on: 14 Jan 2011, 01:37 »

Worse still, the jack plate is constantly loose as one of the two screws has scraped away the thread in the wood has been worn away over the years. I guess the solution is to drill a larger hole, get a screw to match and file at the hole in the plate so it fits.
I've never worked on a guitar (so anyone who has, please jump in if what I propose would be bad), but I have restored several pieces of furniture with loose hinges, lock-plates etc. and I would suggest an alternative approach:

1. Drill the hole just enough larger to get to unchewed wood.
2. Shape a wooden dowel or plug to fit the hole. Make it a little longer than required to reach the bottom.
3. Glue the peg and tap it into the hole until it strikes bottom.
4. Let the glue dry thoroughly.
5. Trim the excess peg off with a sharp chisel. Go slowly, take a little at a time. Don't try to whack it off in one go.
6. Mark and drill a suitable hole for the old screw, and screw it it. No need to bodge the jack plate. Done!


You could use car-body filler instead of gluing in a plug. It works, but I like to restore wood with wood.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2397 on: 14 Jan 2011, 04:55 »

Akima is right. I've done exactly that with a wobbly strap button on a Les Paul. Get wood glue.

You don't really have to file away neatly since you're covering it up with metal. Just find a dowel a bit smaller than the stripped screw hole (toothpicks work if it's a smaller screw) and squeeze some wood glue in there and stick it in. Make sure the glue is evenly distributed. Wait till it dries and you can just drill right into it.
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2398 on: 14 Jan 2011, 06:24 »

I just sent an E-mail to Tim from Bare Knuckle to get him to make me a disgusting-sounding pickup for my 7-string.

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You mean the S7320? If so, fuck yes. what are going with, a C-Pig?
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Re: Re: The Guitar Topic - B
« Reply #2399 on: 14 Jan 2011, 06:30 »

S7420, the MIJ version. And yes, Ceramic Piggie it is.
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