Topic: Re: The Guitar Topic - B (Read 403719 times)

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #3000 on:** 10 Apr 2011, 15:04 »

Pods, fuck yeah!

Floorboard full of overpriced (although admittedly awesome(alliteration!)) pedals, not so much.

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #3001 on:** 10 Apr 2011, 15:21 »

1. Wait/sell stuff
2. Repeat either
3. Buy Blues <custom
4. ???
5. Profit

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #3002 on:** 10 Apr 2011, 15:42 »

Then earn some money. It's what I do whenever I want shit I can't afford.

Cernunnos · « **Reply #3003 on:** 10 Apr 2011, 17:43 »

So a guy over at the tdpri just made his own aluminum guitar neck with a fucking hacksaw

Oh yeah, the body's steel too

Lupercal · « **Reply #3004 on:** 11 Apr 2011, 07:16 »

Heard good things about the Epiphone Valve Junior, around 200 euros for the 'half stack'

Trouble with waiting (for me anyway) is that I am so freaking undecided on what I want. By the time I have near the money for the thing I want, there's a new one out, or a different version of it, or something. It took me years of deliberating and saving up to upgrade from my Strat copy to a second hand MIM Strat. Its not a big decision but took me what seemed like forever.

My next big decision is an amp too, and I'm looking at that stack above or maybe the AC30 Valve Reactor.

valley_parade · « **Reply #3005 on:** 11 Apr 2011, 09:47 »

Have you considered an AC15?

Kwaping · « **Reply #3006 on:** 11 Apr 2011, 14:56 »

I'm pretty happy with my Blues Junior, and they're pretty cheap and plentiful on the used market.

Ctharlhie94 · « **Reply #3007 on:** 11 Apr 2011, 14:57 »

Quote from: tuathal on 10 Apr 2011, 15:10

Heathens!
Also: I think it's time for me to buy an actual guitar amp instead of using my little Ashdown After Eight. It's great as a bass practice amp, less good for guitar.
Problem is, every single amp I want costs around 400-600 euros and I can't really spend that much

So guitar thread, help me out, anyone know of a great tube combo in the 15-30 watt range for 300 euros or less? (You know, apart from the Fender XD's(I wanted an epiphone blues custom so badly))

Hunt for some competitively priced Blackstars or Orange amps would be my advice.

valley_parade · « **Reply #3008 on:** 11 Apr 2011, 16:21 »

There seem to be a lot of mod kits out there for the smaller amps like the Valve Jr and Fender's Champ 600 reissue, take a look into them.

Lupercal · « **Reply #3009 on:** 12 Apr 2011, 01:27 »

Yes! Positive impact on other people and their gear!

You'll have to tell us how it is. I myself prefer the no nonsense simplicity of amps like that, probably because I have basically every effect I could ever want, for the time being.

Ctharlhie94 · « **Reply #3010 on:** 12 Apr 2011, 02:18 »

I think after a delay pedal, next on my wish list is an octaver because OH GOD, HENDRIX AND JACK WHITE TONES.

Lupercal · « **Reply #3011 on:** 14 Apr 2011, 09:53 »

Pretty Jack White's tones come from the soul of a long dead Texan. "It Might Get Loud" was actually a really interesting insight into his life - he seems to detest of anything modern. Lives on a farm, drives a hella old pickup, has those "space age" guitars with about 30 switches on that came out in the 70s.

The Duke · « **Reply #3012 on:** 14 Apr 2011, 10:10 »

Man, I freakin' loved It Might Get Loud. I had a huge guitarist-boner the whole time.

valley_parade · « **Reply #3013 on:** 14 Apr 2011, 10:12 »

Jack White plays an arsenal of Gretsches. Those things had more switches than you knew what to do with back in the late 50s.

They had a guy working for them named Jimmy Webster. Came up with crazy ideas for tone switches, and even got a few stereo guitars put into production. Mostly I think they were just stereo White Falcons.

edit: Yeah, It Might Get Loud was amazing. The best bit was from the deleted scenes where Page had a theremin and kept fucking with The Edge.

"Is that a"WEEEEEEEEOOOOOOPPPPPP!!!! "...is that a real therem"WOOOP WOOOP WOOOP WOOP! "Is that.." OOOOOOOOOOOWEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOP CLAAAAAANG

JimmyJazz · « **Reply #3014 on:** 14 Apr 2011, 10:51 »

I think the actual point of It Might Get Loud was to force everyone to confront the atrocity that is the Edge, cause you hate him even more post-viewing

Ctharlhie94 · « **Reply #3015 on:** 14 Apr 2011, 12:23 »

Smexy, can't wait for the May 5th when I can unleash my package of delicious doom that will be my HT-1.

Lupercal · « **Reply #3016 on:** 14 Apr 2011, 12:39 »

Quote from: JimmyJazz on 14 Apr 2011, 10:51

I think the actual point of It Might Get Loud was to force everyone to confront the atrocity that is the Edge, cause you hate him even more post-viewing

Ha, yep. Annoyed me that they spent what seemed like a long time on the U2 segment. Everybody who actually PLAYS guitar knows that he is a bit of a hack really. Bill Bailey sums it up pretty well.

I found the Page segment the best, but I'll be damned if Jack White's "Who says you can't build a guitar in 10 minutes?" line wasn't the wittiest part of the film.

Lupercal · « **Reply #3017 on:** 14 Apr 2011, 14:46 »

Most of the hits from U2 tend to be ridiculously simple though. I guess thats what adds to the success of him as a guitar player - not a virtuoso but he can make some pretty nice sounds. Although he is one of those guitar players who uses a different guitar for every song...

Loving the look of the Valve Jr by the way - when you say you get a less imposing sound with humbuckers, do mean in a thin kind of way, or that its just generally a bit weak for a beefy sound? I'm looking to upgrade an old strat and I'm still considering whether humbuckers are a good idea or not when I could experiment with some rad single coil tones.

Ctharlhie94 · « **Reply #3018 on:** 14 Apr 2011, 15:11 »

I'm pretty sure SG's can just boss any amp

The Duke · « **Reply #3019 on:** 14 Apr 2011, 17:31 »

Quote from: tuathal on 14 Apr 2011, 13:51

The edge isn't really a hack so much as supremely lazy in a very awesome manner.
Remember, in the early days he had to build up his layers of echo and loops manually, that takes more than a modicum of skill..

Agreed. It seems to me that he's less concerned with playing the guitar in a way that impresses lots of people and more with using effects and such to make awesome sounds.

Melodic · « **Reply #3020 on:** 14 Apr 2011, 20:30 »

Isn't that an acceptable approach to music, though? Shit, that's how Mogwai became one of my favorite acts. I'm no fan of U2 but I like the idea of making nice sounds, regardless of technical complexity.

Patrick · « **Reply #3021 on:** 14 Apr 2011, 21:32 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 11 Apr 2011, 09:47

Have you considered an AC15?

I do this every single day. And I make my decision right then and there. I just never have the money. God damn it.

doombilly · « **Reply #3022 on:** 15 Apr 2011, 03:43 »

Quote from: JimmyJazz on 14 Apr 2011, 10:51

I think the actual point of It Might Get Loud was to force everyone to confront the atrocity that is the Edge, cause you hate him even more post-viewing

Yeah, it lost too much cred **(with me) when I heard Edge was involved. So I've not seen it. If you are a real fan of some of the Jack White-isms, there is a in depth article in this month's tape-op magazine about his studio and philia for anachronisms. Pretty interesting. I agree with him on some stuff re: recording, not editing together. But I'll never have the bank to record the way he does. I really want to pay some professional to record our 2nd record but it is getting up to double album length. sigh...

**edit. Not that I'm any great shakes. Also I have to admit we used to do a funky cover of 'W/ Or W/o You' just to fill time. I just went with a surfy sound avec delay. We used a bit more interesting but albeit dreadfully repetitive drum sequence and Maria brought some interest with the P bass.

Kwaping · « **Reply #3023 on:** 15 Apr 2011, 08:23 »

Tuathal, your dad's guitar is so awesome! I think the headstock came out really well, and the orange stripe was perfect even before you explained the significance. He's going to cherish that forever! I don't know how I'd react if my son made me something as awesome as that, I'd probably cry.

David_Dovey · « **Reply #3024 on:** 15 Apr 2011, 08:33 »

To be fair Jack White's whole schtick in that movie came across a lot better when I realised how non-serious about it he was. You guys do realise that he doesn't actually live like that, right? He was playing a character for the benefit of that particular project, just like he does with everything else he does.

Lupercal · « **Reply #3025 on:** 16 Apr 2011, 12:26 »

Knowing very little about Jack White apart from his work on Icky Thump and Horehound, everything in that film seemed bona fide to me. Apart from the bit where his son is dressed exactly like him.

Lupercal · « **Reply #3026 on:** 17 Apr 2011, 10:16 »

Your comments and mostly your

have pretty much sold me on getting the Valve Jr. Taking my own advice through someone else is weird. I might find a nicer cab, but I literally have no idea on what cabs do to make your sound any different.

But Behringer aren't terrible, at least the casing is better than the Danelectro pedals. Got my brother a Behringer fuzz pedal and a 10W amp for his bass and it seems fine, nothing fancy but he's still in the practising in the bedroom stage.

Lummer · « **Reply #3027 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 08:44 »

Okay guys.. Can we talk about how damn cool the new Gibson Melody Maker series is?

Ctharlhie94 · « **Reply #3028 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 10:08 »

Sorry, never been a fan of melody makers. The headstock looks silly imo, and single coils on a Gibson? To me it seems like an unnecessary guitar what with the Les Paul jr. :/

Lupercal · « **Reply #3029 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 10:14 »

Quote from: Lummer on 18 Apr 2011, 08:44

Okay guys.. Can we talk about how damn cool the new Gibson Melody Maker series is?

Not really because I saw the Jonas Brother's Melody Maker and disliked Gibson even more.

And have to agree that the Melody Maker seems null when looking at the Les Paul Jr. But I've never played one, so that might be the huge thing I'm missing with the guitar.

Edit: The actual Melody Maker looks nice though, and a good deal for $700 (again, I guess depending on playability)

NotAFanOfFenders · « **Reply #3030 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 10:21 »

I really have no problems with a Jonas Bro's Sig. They're certainly big enough to warrant cashing in on.

Lupercal · « **Reply #3031 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 10:25 »

To be fair everyone who wants one has a signature series already. Ebony fretboard is a thumbs up in my book, but maaaan I can't get on board with that.

Lummer · « **Reply #3032 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 11:12 »

Nononononono you guys; The NEW Melody Makers!!

SG's, Flying V's, Explorers and LP's with single humbuckers and Maple bodies! YAaaaaay!

valley_parade · « **Reply #3033 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 11:22 »

Quote from: Lummer on 18 Apr 2011, 11:12

Nononononono you guys; The NEW Melody Makers!!

SG's, Flying V's, Explorers and LP's with single humbuckers and Maple bodies! YAaaaaay!

Link? Not seeing this anywhere.

edit: Whoa nevermind. I'd be hell of interested in the SG. Especially at the $539 MF is advertising them for.

Kwaping · « **Reply #3034 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 13:42 »

After all their QC issues and general bone-headedness, I'm pretty anti-Gibson myself. However, those guitars are pretty awesome. I'm becoming a fan of elegance through simplicity.

valley_parade · « **Reply #3035 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 13:55 »

I am for the most part all about sheer simplicity.

My dream Jazzmaster would probably be a hardtail, and wouldn't have the rhythm circuit.

The Duke · « **Reply #3036 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 14:27 »

Quote from: tuathal on 18 Apr 2011, 11:24

http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Gibson-USA.aspx?ProductGroup=Melody-Maker-Series

that blue SG man

daaaaang

Melodic · « **Reply #3037 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 20:24 »

Shit guys, help me be responsible.

I've been saving my pennies to buy some serious guitar kit for quite some time, and I finally have enough to buy something special. I've been playing guitar for a year and a half, but all of it's been in my bedroom behind a Dano and (recently) a Pod 3. I've got a few options:

A) buy an SG Standard. I've been wanting this guitar since I started playing, and I can order one from an independent local shop for $1100CDN.
B) buy a real amplifier. Outside of my Pod, I don't have a lot of experience with proper amps, so I don't really know what I want/what I can afford, but I know this is a step I've got to take some time.
C) save my fucking pennies! Who knows, maybe I can afford ordering a Kauer in 6 months' time, or invest this money in the stock market and become a millionaire. Then I can buy all the guitar kit I'd ever need!

Inform me, guitar thread, what I should do, as I am in need of some solid advice.

Kwaping · « **Reply #3038 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 21:08 »

If you buy new, make sure it's something you're going to keep forever. Otherwise, you'll take a bath on resale. Otherwise, my advice is to buy anything you want used. If you are smart about it and get a good deal, you can always sell it later for near what you paid, or possibly more. It's like a playable bank account. (Your mileage may vary, etc etc.) That way, you can scratch your itch right now while still saving up for something even better in the future.

Patrick · « **Reply #3039 on:** 18 Apr 2011, 23:45 »

I went into the Dublin, CA Best Buy to check out the brand new geetars they have over there. Picked up the most expensive Les Paul I could find. Tobacco burst, unchambered body, played it through a Marshall Haze 40 and cranked it to fuck. John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers most certainly ensued, and I fell in love with a guitar I will never, ever be able to afford.

Oh, GAS, I will never love you.

Bearer · « **Reply #3040 on:** 19 Apr 2011, 07:04 »

Quote from: Sam on 18 Apr 2011, 21:26

never owned one myself but i've haerd Gibson quality control is suspect these days

i'd look for a great used amp and stick with the dano, or meet halfway

My 2006 Firebird VII is sturdy as a rock, and just about as heavy as one too. I need to adjust the truss-rod though, the changing weather is getting to it a bit...

valley_parade · « **Reply #3041 on:** 21 Apr 2011, 12:15 »

Grumble. I watched Hail! Hail! Rock & Roll! last night, and all the Chuck Berry is making me want something 335 shaped.

Maybe? But sometimes GFS quality is a bit iffy.

Poo brown and stripped down? Sure!

I've played the flat-top version which kinda looks like a Dano/Ric hybrid and liked it.

Wrong shape, but I'm a Tele whoooooooore.

The Duke · « **Reply #3042 on:** 21 Apr 2011, 13:05 »

Quote from: valley_parade on 21 Apr 2011, 12:15

Grumble. I watched Hail! Hail! Rock & Roll! last night, and all the Chuck Berry is making me want something 335 shaped.
<snip>

Another movie that I absolutely loved.

Chad K. · « **Reply #3043 on:** 21 Apr 2011, 13:21 »

That Xaviere is gorgeous. For 335s I have an Epi Sheraton II and Hagstrom Viking, which are both dearly loved. I recommend both.

Melodic · « **Reply #3044 on:** 21 Apr 2011, 21:30 »

Hey Patrick, you ever get any terrible tuning problems with your Bullet? I carted mine out of storage yesterday, took the entire thing apart and reassembled it in preparation for sanding and painting, but it just won't stay in tune. Not really sure where the problem lies -- I can't get the intonation at the bridge right either, so that's my first thought. Since I bought the thing for $20, I don't really wanna pay more than that fixing the problem. If I can't get it to play nice, whatever, I'll toss the whole thing or use it for parts.

Chad K. · « **Reply #3045 on:** 22 Apr 2011, 00:15 »

Just went to guitar center to try out an e-bow. (I know, I know, but gc was the only place that had one, and I tried four independent music stores). First off, that thing is amazing. It's a little hard to get the hang of at first, but after the initial hump it becomes a lot of fun to play.

Second, at least the gc I went to had a one day only sale starting tomorrow on Fender's 25r for $75. I keep my amp at my band's practice space, so I needed a small amp that was apartment friendly. I picked this one up because they accidentally put the stickers up a day early. For $75 this thing smokes. It's obviously solid state given the price range, but the clean is gorgeous and it has an actual spring reverb. The distortion sucks, (see again solid state) but I only use a touch of gain, so it's great for me. If you're in the States, and have been looking for a good little beginner's amp or a nice utility amp, this one comes highly recommended at the price point.

Patrick · « **Reply #3046 on:** 22 Apr 2011, 05:36 »

Quote from: Melodic on 21 Apr 2011, 21:30

Hey Patrick, you ever get any terrible tuning problems with your Bullet?

Back before I demolished the thing, it used to stay pretty well in tune. The G was a little temperamental, but that's the same as on every guitar I've ever owned.

If nut grease doesn't solve the problem, you could always try new tuners. That bridge is really trash, though, there's really no way to make that part of it not completely blow ass. Unless you maybe swapped it for a Tele bridge somehow, or drilled holes into yr b0d for string ferrules.

Idunno I haven't played the damn thing in hella long, it needs a nut and a new bridge pickup because the nut got sacrificed to go into the Jag when hers broke and the pup is hella microphonic and SHITTYYYYYYYYYYYY

David_Dovey · « **Reply #3047 on:** 24 Apr 2011, 11:24 »

Oh thank crap that didn't make an sense to someone else

David_Dovey · « **Reply #3048 on:** 24 Apr 2011, 11:25 »

Maybe he just wants to carve a little cavity for the ebow so he has somewhere easily-accessible to keep it when he's not using it

Patrick · « **Reply #3049 on:** 24 Apr 2011, 11:38 »

Or maybe have a rout underneath the strings (perhaps next to the pickups) where the Ebow can sit in a groove so that it is always at an effective distance from the strings? Manipulate a lever or some shit that controls the location of the Ebow itself, which would determine what string is being played by it. It'd be complex and might be a little clunky, but then again, so are Hipshot string benders.

I dunno why y'all seem so quick to hate on the idea...

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