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Re: YOU! YOU BETTER NOT BE SOBER, pt B

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Barmymoo:
Bit off topic for this thread, but if you want to address your sleep cycle issues, I would advise setting a regular time both for waking up and going to sleep, and sticking to it absolutely for three weeks (except in emergencies - if you plan ahead you can identify times where you'll need to be stay up late/get up early and factor that into your choice of regular times). It will be very painful for a while, especially if it means going without much sleep during one day, but it is the only way to make it work.

I know you've mentioned in the past that you have the same issue as I do with forcing yourself to get offline and go to bed. What's working for me at the moment is having a checklist over my computer where I tick off "nine hours' sleep a night" for each day, and having deliberately committed myself to a daily activity which requires me to get up at the same time every day. Both together mean that I have to go to bed at the same time every night, otherwise I'll not hit one or other of my daily targets.

CrowFairy:
I used to try doing that, and it's never worked. :/ And setting goals for myself has become fairly pointless, because the only things I can guarantee I'll get done are homework assignments at this point. I'm not really sure when exactly it was that I let myself go like that. :/ I really need to get my crap together and try harder. Your suggestions are excellent, and I'll see about trying to do better about it. At least while my depression is like it is right now, all bets are off...

Barmymoo:
One step at a time. One of my friends scoffed when I told her that one of my goals is to eat three proper meals a day, but for me it would be success to get into that habit. If you try to do too much at once you'll invariably fail, so just cut it down and down until it's manageable. Like toddlers eating solid food!

Bluesummers:

--- Quote from: Barmymoo on 28 Jan 2013, 05:28 ---What's working for me at the moment is having a checklist over my computer where I tick off "nine hours' sleep a night" for each day,[...]

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The checklist might sound weird at first, but that's how I keep myself committed to anything, whether it's getting enough sleep, filling out a form needed, etc. I basically send myself an email from my phone when I have the idea in my head, because I know if I don't write it down somewhere, I'll forget it...whether I'm sober or not.

CrowFairy:
See, I have a hard time enforcing my rules. I go, "Okay, I'll stop watching this and can watch one episode of this once I've gotten a page done." And then I keep watching it anyway. I like to get things done all at once, so it's extremely difficult for me to do punishments and rewards when it comes to that. I have yet to figure out a way that actually works when it comes to sleeping. I tell myself I can't do something if I don't go to bed by a certain time. I do it the next day anyway. And if the thing that's keeping me from going to bed is OCD.... Well, good luck tearing me away from what I'm doing. The empty checkboxes stopped working my second year of college or so. As long as there's literally no one who can see me being lazy, I just end up doing whatever I want. If my conscience didn't make me feel so guilty, I don't think I'd ever get anything done. I can spend a lengthy amount of time procrastinating, but eventually, I'll stop enjoying it because I feel guilty about not doing what I should be. Guilt doesn't work for sleep most of the time, and I can't even begin to fathom why. I'm used to feeling tired all the time even when I'm sleeping well, so telling myself that I'll be tired the next day doesn't work. I wish I could think of something unconventional that I haven't tried for anything else in my life that would help me do it.

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