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Tova:
So, forgive me for my ignorance, I haven't been following this stuff.
How is this expansion different from Burning Legion?
Blizzard seem to have been trading heavily on nostalgia in the past couple of expansions. Maybe they got a bit burned by MoP and decided that the best way to bring players back is to rehash, rehash, rehash.
Neko_Ali:
Yes, there is a lot of play on Nostalgia that has gone into this and the last expansion. It's not really a bad thing though. WoW lore is quite expansive and it would be a waste to throw it all away every expansion to come up with new things. Especially when the old things are still around and there are more stories to be told about them. A fair bit is borrowed from Burning Crusade and Wrath of the Lich King. The return of the Legion, of Illidan and Kharazhan from Burning Crusade hits on a lot of the big things that were popular in that expansion. Some of the feel of the zones, Dalaran, the Vrykul and a new hero class call back to Wrath. Familiar places and people and new stories to be told. Technically, continuation of stories that have been told since the start of the franchise. Many of the enemies have been stopped, or beaten back... but never truly destroyed and their threat was not ended, merely postponed. The Legion by definition cannot be destroyed. At best you can destroy the physical bodies of the demons and send them to the nether for a time. But they will always return. They and the Old Gods will always remain a threat to Azeroth, no matter how many times they are 'killed'.
So in short.. I don't mind at all that we are going back to old places. I liked visiting old Draenor last expansion. I love running around Dalaran again this expansion. I'm so looking forward to the new Kharazan dungeon, which still remains one of my favorite raids ever. I want to see where these characters, some of which I've known longer than real life friends at this point, go in their story.
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: Tova on 06 Sep 2016, 17:51 ---So, forgive me for my ignorance, I haven't been following this stuff.
How is this expansion different from Burning Crusade?
Blizzard seem to have been trading heavily on nostalgia in the past couple of expansions. Maybe they got a bit burned by MoP and decided that the best way to bring players back is to rehash, rehash, rehash.
--- End quote ---
Fixed that bit for you.
Basically the Burning Legion have actually invaded, rather than just being the hidden boogeymen and puppet masters that they have been for all the expansions. On top of that major (click to show/hide)deep breath...Varian Wrynn, Vol'jin and Tirion Fordring have been killed off. Wrynn was burned from the inside out by Gul'dan and now his son is King...again. Vol'jin got stabbed in the gut and died a slow and agonising death before making Sylvanas the new Warchief. And Tirion got puked on by a massive demon before being tortured and dying in the first Paladin mission should you go for the Ashbringer weapon. On top of that, Thrall is no longer the pre-eminent Shaman in the game, because he used his powers to cheat in a duel in the Warlords expansion. Cenarius and Ysera get corrupted and Ysera gets killed. Magni Bronzebeard comes back to life, he's still a diamond statue. And Death Knight players are working for the Lich King. Genn Greymane, who was with Varian when he sacrificed himself, has pretty much started his own war against the Horde, while Sylvanas is already causing shit five minutes after becoming Warchief.
The whole point of Legion is now that the players characters have been recognised as the main heroes of Azeroth and therefore become the leader of their class and act as the spearpoint against the Legion. Warriors become champions of what is essentially Valhalla, having been recognised as the true champions of Azeroth. Death Knight players can reforge Frostmourne into a pair of blades (Frost spec only), but also recreate the Four Horsemen. Paladins rebuild the Order of the Silver Hand and are based from the basement of Light's Hope Chapel. And it goes on like that for the classes.
It seems like Blizzard are clearing out characters and setting up the players to take over from them. Which kind of makes me wonder if the expansion will be some sort of Kingmaker scenario and players become rulers of their respective faction.
Edit: Also, what Neko_Ali said.
Tova:
Ha, yes, sorry for the brain fart there with the misnaming of BC.
Obviously, a lot of people don't mind revisiting to old places. It's proven to be a very popular strategy. And I have no doubt that you can justify the position that this expansion advances a story. I'd probably feel happier about another Legion expansion if not for the tired Back from the Dead trope.
Eh. Given that I am trying to resist any temptation to return to the game, I should be happy that they are doing this. Because it makes resisting the temptation easier.
Obviously I am not heavily into the lore and am not their target audience.
TheEvilDog:
To be fair, the characters who have died aren't coming back and in all fairness Blizzard isn't really the kind of developer that uses that trope. In fact, they're more likely to use http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CameBackWrong trope. And bear in mind that the characters they have killed off were or are quite popular.
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