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WCDT: 2671-2675 (March 31- Apr. 4, 2014) Weekly Comics Discussion Thread
J:
maybe he'll move to new york with angus.
actually, maybe he'll just talk about moving on from northampton, and that will set off faye's abandonment issues in a way angus couldn't.
Akima:
--- Quote from: billydaking on 31 Mar 2014, 17:04 ---For instance, "The Beatles" always appears as the Beatles in text.
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Not true. I did a Google search on "the beatles" and the very first page shows multiple examples of the band's name being given as The Beatles even in the middle of sentences. So I'll go on capitalising the article in The Beatles, The Jesus and Mary Chain, The Clash and The Economist.
The brain-cells that held this thought will probably die in the night. Or be overwritten by images of boobs covered in cake batter.
aphanisis81:
--- Quote from: billydaking on 31 Mar 2014, 17:04 ---
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 31 Mar 2014, 08:00 ---
--- Quote from: Oxford University Style Guide ---... books/films/songs/games etc – capitalise the first word of the title, and all words within the title except articles (a/an/the), prepositions (to/on/for etc) and conjunctions (but/and/or etc).
✓ The Last Mohican
✓ Far from the Madding Crowd
✓ Gone with the Wind
✓ World of Warcraft
✓ Grand Theft Auto III
✓ 'Always Look on the Bright Side of Life'
✘ 'Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life'
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My emphasis.
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Editor Alert....those are for titles, not proper names. As the rule quoted above says, "books/films/songs/games". Those are titles of a specific work, which are also always appear in quotes or italics (also as shown in the quotes above).
A band name is considered a proper name, not a title. It isn't treated as a separate entity from the sentence structure surrounding it. For instance, "The Beatles" always appears as the Beatles in text.
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But they're not called Beatles. They're called The Beatles. Assuming you're correct that they never appear in print as The Beatles, a very good case can still technically be made for it to be considered correct.
--- Quote ---Also, what you quoted was the Oxford style guide, which is a collection of style rules specific to Oxford University. It's not an overall grammar book.
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Exactly. This is a style question, not a grammar question. And even if it were a grammar question , we'd have descended intp the prescriptivist/descriptivist debate by now. Style is even more fluid. There is no definitive answer and this thread could go on forever and ever. When I tried yesterday to say definitively that The Promise Ring is correct, I only meant that the The is technically part of the band's name.
aphanisis81:
OK, I officially don't know how to use the "quote" feature. One of my comments appears as though it were yours. Sorry.
pwhodges:
I fixed it for you.
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