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So Stephen Colbert is going to be hosting The Late Show

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BeoPuppy:
I think we disagree with each other about the nature of these tv shows, and that's fine. But I'm not making excuses, I have a different view of art, apparently. And I see their utterances different. I guess that's the luxury I have and you do not, I assume, because of our vastly different experiences in life which I cannot begin to comprehend. I do not feel competent enough to enter into the whole trans* discussion. So, since I have no new arguements to add here I'm going to leave it at this and wish you all the best.

Valdís:

--- Quote from: BeoPuppy on 13 Apr 2014, 02:11 ---I think we disagree with each other about the nature of these tv shows, and that's fine.
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No, we don't. I have no doubt that he's not serious about a lot of things. That doesn't mean that that also applies to his verbatim repetition of transmisogyny. Someone can't just say or imply "Oh, sometimes I joke about stuff!" and have that excuse all their shitty, oppressive behaviour ever on the basis of other people, incredibly eager to defend him for some damn reason, assuming that "He was joking!!". Nor that it'd be okay even if he was.

But he isn't. He really, truly, honestly isn't. There is a clear, distinct difference in how he acts regarding it and different material.


--- Quote from: BeoPuppy on 13 Apr 2014, 02:11 ---But I'm not making excuses, I have a different view of art, apparently. And I see their utterances different.
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No, just excuse-making, actually. Especially since you're now also including Stewart, who doesn't even have that bullshit excuse people use for Colbert. But sure, trans women are just the most absurd disgusting things ever. Ha Ha aren't jokes swell.

~Art~

Aimless:
I thought I'd see more about #CancelColbert here :o I kinda like the Colbert persona, but I don't really like many of his writers. They're frequently lazy and go for cheap laughs at things that aren't really all that funny. Many of his utterances don't qualify as "satire". He's not some sort of ally who's helping to further any socially progressive agenda. His job is to entertain Democrats by making fun of "the other side" and honestly it often doesn't seem to amount to anything more than throwing custard pies. At best it qualifies as parody.

So... I guess I find it a little surprising that people get up in arms when Colbert is criticized, like he's supposed to be universally super-funny, the most skilled comedian ever, you just have to understand his jokes, here let me help you understand. Then I realize it's not really about that. It's just what you do when someone attacks someone you like and kinda identify with a little.

Aimless:
I don't think Letterman is all that funny either, but he had a way with his guests that was impressive. I dunno if Colbert can pull that off

BeoPuppy:

--- Quote from: Valdís on 13 Apr 2014, 02:21 ---[...]

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Sure. Have a great day.

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