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N.N. Marf:
--- Quote from: flfederation on 12 Oct 2020, 22:17 ---They're fine for situations where you can really enumerate all the questions that matter. If you can't do that, the checklist is pretty much going to cost you whatever questions you can't predict the need for . But people aren't good at determining whether a checklist is sufficient for a given solution or not-- perhaps because they're using a checklist to determine the suitability.
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Each thing (or sufficient approximation) is enumerable. `Checklist' in me stands for explicit recordable procedure. Good checklist determining checklist goodness would be great. Until such metachecklist..
hedgie:
Charles Manson died in prison for saying far less than many preachers in this country, and I'll leave it at that.
N.N. Marf:
--- Quote from: hedgie on 12 Oct 2020, 22:39 ---Charles Manson died in prison for saying far less than many preachers in this country, and I'll leave it at that.
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Charles Manson died 83 years old of cardiac arrest (after dubious medical treatment of serious illness) while imprisoned by conviction of (conspiracy to) murder. What his speech contributed to his death? Of that, was it the speech of it that contributed to his death, or something else? e.g. conspiracy to murder.
Cornelius:
--- Quote from: LeeC on 12 Oct 2020, 21:21 ---
--- Quote from: hedgie on 12 Oct 2020, 18:52 ---IIRC, the ankles thing was mostly an American attempt to emulate the Victorians. IIRC, in the 12th and 13th centuries, heavy cleavage, if not bare breasts were fairly common amongst the ladies.
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That could be. I know the shoulder thing is true though. I was surprised to find out my wife was brought up saying you should cover your shoulders when trying to be presentable and especially when going to church. It was something that stuck around in eastern europe and survived into the modern age (along with many other superstitions I was made aware of). Looking at some medieval art of women from the period seems like the ankle thing might not be too far off though (for nobles since they could afford nice clothes). And I almost say the same with men in that regard. Granted central heating wasn't a thing and keeping warm while working outside in brisk weather was probably important and common whether you were a lowly peasant or a noble. And then the inverse when it was to hot I am willing to bet the men and women had bear arms and legs to help cool off when farming.
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Maybe instead of showing skin (I still maintain the shoulder idea though) but perhaps impressive hats like a wimple? Then again a commoner might have thought an impressive hat meant nobility and that was nothing to trifle with. Doing a bit more research, eye contact was a huge thing in courtship and so maybe sexy/hungry eyes would have done the trick back then. I still don;t feel like I have a firm answer though. Still something to muse about.
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The idea of a lot of bare skin in general seems to be an instance of Hollywood interpretation, just like the drab and grey colours... Now, that being said, there is something of a class divide here, as some miniatures show the difference between the courtois lady modestly warming herself to the fire, while the vilains are standing before the fire with all the parts they want to warm directly exposed. For working in the fields, it was fairly normal - described and pictured - for the labourers to roll down their hose, and just be their in their shirt.
On the other hand, 12th and 13th centuries had not the inhibitions about bathing that later periods had.
LeeC:
Dinosaur shaped chicken nuggets are made of evolved dinosaurs, so one could say dinosaur nuggets are actually dinosaur nuggets.
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