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explicit:
What you just said is one of the reasons why I like John McCain. Even if you don't agree with him at least he goes against his party when it means he'd have to abandon his morals/beliefs. I also listen to him more about this issue than anyone else in the government because the guy actually was tortured for years. So while almost everyone in his party is going, "well, you know, safety, blahhhhhvomit" he's actually taking a stand.
Anyway, you're right, we portray ourselves as the good guys and we should act like it. Regardless of the merits behind torture (which are mixed, cause the whole false evidence thing that happens a lot), we're supposed to be... you know... not dicks.
GarandMarine:
Well. John McCain is still a chicken hawk sonabitch. So he can STILL fuck off, even if I happen to agree with him on this particular subject.
explicit:
Right, my point is that he at least thinks for himself, unlike most of congress who just goes with what their party wants. I think a lot of his ideas are fucking stupid, of course, because I have a brain.
And I guess when you feel the way I do about most people in the government I could not like one and they could still be one of my favorites. The bar is not set very high, is what I'm getting at.
Thrillho:
Gotta say Garland I didn't expect that post to go the way it did. I am impressed and pleased.
Akima:
--- Quote from: GarandMarine on 11 Dec 2014, 00:27 --- Yeah it's hard being the good guy. It's supposed to be. It's not easy to maintain your morals and standards in the face of scumbags who have none, but when you become them, when you abandon your standards, you've already lost.
--- End quote ---
Outdated? If so, I must be too; I couldn't have put it better myself. I believe this is right, not for the sake of the scumbags of this world, but for our own sakes. We demonstrate that we are not like our enemies by refusing to treat them the way they treat their victims. The idea that we are of such inherent worth that our actions become acceptable, no matter how base they may be, is a step onto a very slippery slope.
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