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WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Barmymoo:
Yeah I'd say so. If someone says "hey, we need to talk" and the other person says anything that indicates that now isn't a good time, then the correct response (unless what you need to talk about is an immediate threat to someone's life or something) is "ok, well let me know when you're able to talk about this" and then you leave.
T:
--- Quote from: KOK on 11 Jul 2014, 11:35 ---On the other hand, how would you likeit if someone told you he had something to say to you. You tell him that this is not a good time for something big, and he says. "OK. See you later."?
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Wouldn't this sounds like it isn't important them? If Swen did that it would sound like what he wants to tell her is not much important to him making the love confession sounds even cheaper.
Shjade:
--- Quote from: T on 11 Jul 2014, 12:21 ---
--- Quote from: KOK on 11 Jul 2014, 11:35 ---On the other hand, how would you likeit if someone told you he had something to say to you. You tell him that this is not a good time for something big, and he says. "OK. See you later."?
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Wouldn't this sounds like it isn't important them? If Swen did that it would sound like what he wants to tell her is not much important to him making the love confession sounds even cheaper.
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Important != urgent. A topic can be very important, but if it's not time-sensitive you don't necessarily have to talk about it as soon as possible. In fact, if it's really that important a subject to discuss, you really should wait for a time to talk about it when everyone involved will be able to think clearly and absorb what you're saying.
Being in a rush to talk about it suggests it isn't really that important in and of itself, that what you really value is telling someone about it, which isn't the same thing. It makes it less about the topic and more about you.
Regarding Sven and "nice guys:" given Sven's stated philosophy toward relationships and how he interacts with women, I don't think he feels deserving of/entitled to anything from Faye. It seems, to me, more likely that he's just not sure of what to do to win her over since his usual bag of tricks, which were pretty much all he knew before and never failed until now, is completely worthless. It seems less, "If I do this she'll have to want me," and more, "What does she want from me?"
Actually I take part of that back, 'cause even that summary seems more cynical than I think he's being right now. He's in a place he's never been his entire life, at least according to Dora's description of him (short version: always been the best and most successful at everything with almost no effort on his part). He doesn't know why things aren't working for him or what he's supposed to do to fix what he did to screw it all up. I wouldn't go so far as to call it being "out of his depth," just that he's at a loss, not only for what he has to do to get what he wants, but even about what he wants (thus "I think I'm in love with you" vs "I'm in love with you").
Neko_Ali:
Or it would give the power to the other person to decide if they can handle more big news or not. At the very least he could have asked what was wrong, instead of just going ahead with his self-centered revelation. Because the conversation was all about Sven. Honestly to me it seems he's a victim of popular culture and media. Teenage 'get the girl' movies are set up like that all the time. Two people spend an hour plus run time dancing around each other, the guy suddenly realizes 'wait, she's really the one!' one more set of wacky hijinks and a heartfelt confession later, the guy gets the girl just in time for them to head off into the sunset/have one last musical dance number.
Sven needs this I think, to learn and grow. Something to not just fall into his lap without any real effort on his part. Or just not to happen the way he wants at all. Because that's what life is like.
Tormuse:
I think the thing that gets me the most about this is that Sven's logic isn't even internally consistent. He obviously thinks that what he has to say is important, as evidenced by the fact that he dragged Faye out of her workplace while she was working to say it and even goes on about how miserable this has made him, but then vehemently denies that it's a big deal. Is this important to him or not? Does he even know?
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