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WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread

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Tormuse:

--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 11 Jul 2014, 12:35 ---Sven needs this I think, to learn and grow. Something to not just fall into his lap without any real effort on his part. Or just not to happen the way he wants at all. Because that's what life is like.

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Yes, and I think it goes a little beyond learning that he can't get everything easily.  He's in a situation where he may very well have to learn that some mistakes have permanent consequences.  He screwed up with Faye and now, most likely, there is nothing he can do to fix it so he can get with her again.  I can sympathize with that in that it's a painful lesson to learn,but he's going to have to smarten up a bit more than he's demonstrating in order to learn it.

Edit:  Sorry about the double post; I was sure 6 more people were going to post before I finished typing that.  :P

Smallest:

--- Quote from: Shjade on 11 Jul 2014, 12:30 ---Regarding Sven and "nice guys:" given Sven's stated philosophy toward relationships and how he interacts with women, I don't think he feels deserving of/entitled to anything from Faye. It seems, to me, more likely that he's just not sure of what to do to win her over since his usual bag of tricks, which were pretty much all he knew before and never failed until now, is completely worthless. It seems less, "If I do this she'll have to want me," and more, "What does she want from me?"

Actually I take part of that back, 'cause even that summary seems more cynical than I think he's being right now. He's in a place he's never been his entire life, at least according to Dora's description of him (short version: always been the best and most successful at everything with almost no effort on his part). He doesn't know why things aren't working for him or what he's supposed to do to fix what he did to screw it all up. I wouldn't go so far as to call it being "out of his depth," just that he's at a loss, not only for what he has to do to get what he wants, but even about what he wants (thus "I think I'm in love with you" vs "I'm in love with you").

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I agree with this, and I really am thinking/hoping the last panel is him going 'right, I'm not entitled to that,' but on the other hand I definitely think when he first replied, he was getting close.

Noxx:

--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 11 Jul 2014, 12:35 --- At the very least he could have asked what was wrong, instead of just going ahead with his self-centered revelation.

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But he can't, because to Sven, this is biggest news the world has ever known. I hate to stretch, but it's sort of typical of an abusive personality. "This is important to me, and I am the most important thing in the world, why are you not giving this proper attention and credit?'.

It's pretty douchey. You can dress it up by saying things like "I just want to be honest about my feelings", but in the real world, telling someone you're not involved with that you love them is placing a ridiculous demand on them. "Oh I don't have any expectations, but I wanted you to know....". Horse Shit. All you're doing is placing someone else in an incredibly uncomfortable position by relieving your own personal conflict at their expense.

"Well, I feel better now that I told her". Yeah I bet you do, I bet you don't wonder if she feels better. Dick.

Somnus Eternus:

--- Quote from: Barmymoo on 11 Jul 2014, 08:25 ---Please don't use the word retard to mean someone who's just being an idiot - it has a medical meaning which isn't relevant here.

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It's a quote from Tropic Thunder.  //www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q

TRVA123:
still not okay to use.

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--- Quote from: Noxx on 11 Jul 2014, 13:16 --- because to Sven, this is biggest news the world has ever known. I hate to stretch, but it's sort of typical of an abusive personality. "This is important to me, and I am the most important thing in the world, why are you not giving this proper attention and credit?'.

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I don't think Sven is abusive. Selfish, maybe. But there is a big difference between someone who is abusive and someone who is selfish.

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