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WCDT: 2741-2745 (07-11 July 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread
Jazzmaster:
--- Quote from: Smallest on 11 Jul 2014, 13:15 ---I agree with this, and I really am thinking/hoping the last panel is him going 'right, I'm not entitled to that,' but on the other hand I definitely think when he first replied, he was getting close.
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When he emphasized his honesty, I don't think he meant "I told you the truth, now show me your vagina!". Rather, I believe he meant "no, I'm not just jerking you around and playing mind games so you'll sleep with me, I actually am in love with you".
Smallest:
--- Quote from: TRVA123 on 11 Jul 2014, 13:59 ---still not okay to use.
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--- Quote from: Noxx on 11 Jul 2014, 13:16 --- because to Sven, this is biggest news the world has ever known. I hate to stretch, but it's sort of typical of an abusive personality. "This is important to me, and I am the most important thing in the world, why are you not giving this proper attention and credit?'.
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I don't think Sven is abusive. Selfish, maybe. But there is a big difference between someone who is abusive and someone who is selfish.
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Agreed. I don't think we've really seen evidence to Sven even being all that self-obsessed. I mean, he gets stuff easily, but that's not self-importance. He has been fairly considerate of Dora's feelings (other than initially sleeping with Faye, but that was a) irrational of Dora and b) just as much on Faye), took Hanners out, talked to Marten about Dora, etc. I also don't think there's really evidence of him thinking this is more important than everything- in his own words, it's not a big deal.
--- Quote from: Jazzmaster on 11 Jul 2014, 14:24 ---
--- Quote from: Smallest on 11 Jul 2014, 13:15 ---I agree with this, and I really am thinking/hoping the last panel is him going 'right, I'm not entitled to that,' but on the other hand I definitely think when he first replied, he was getting close.
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When he emphasized his honesty, I don't think he meant "I told you the truth, now show me your vagina!". Rather, I believe he meant "no, I'm not just jerking you around and playing mind games so you'll sleep with me, I actually am in love with you".
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While I wouldn't take his wording that far, I really didn't mean I think he genuinely believed he was entitled. More he spoke in a way that put him in nice guy territory for a second, probably without thinking, and even if it was thinking, he had an 'oh, shit' moment after realizing. That's part of why I wouldn't take it that far; because I don't think he thought it through.
Of course, it is pretty culturally ingrained (movies!) that even if we ignore the nice guy thing, telling the truth = you HAVE to listen to me; it's okay to chase people down, grab their arm, and hold them still while you spit out the truth. Sven isn't going to do that (I hope), but I could see that being part of his 'hey, you can't tell me to fuck off...' moment
Loki:
ITT: movies suck.
Barmymoo:
The thing about social behaviour being learned and culturally defined is that it means that people who are at base decent, kind, caring human beings are still going to mess up at times because they haven't learnt the appropriate or inappropriate approaches to specific situations. I do this all the time, and never maliciously - I say something and later on someone says "hey, did you realise that when you said [x], you made the other person feel [y] because of [this background context I hadn't thought of]?". So saying that Sven was wandering into niceguy territory or acting entitled doesn't mean that his entire personality is built around those characteristics, just that he has inadvertently done something that isn't appropriate because he has never had to figure this out before and no one has told him "don't do this because it carries this implication that you don't want".
hedgie:
I don't think that Sven thinks that he's "entitled" to Faye, but he still *is* rather self-obsessed. As has been pointed out elsethread, he's never had to work for anything, so relationships are rather alien for him. Since he's the sort of person who ignores potential partners just 'cos he wants to read "History of the Crusades" and have a quiet drink is a decent demonstration that he isn't stupid. He's just a bit slow when it comes to dealing with a lot of emotional shit. He could probably make it as an *actual* musician rather than writing a bunch of shitty pop-country songs just 'cos it's easy, not to mention other things that he *could* do. The boy is just out of his depth when it comes with dealing with difficulty. And the change in his facial expressions in the last panels of the last comic kinda demonstrate that, as well as some ability to recognise it.
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