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WCDT: 2776-2780 (25-29 August 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread

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techkid:
Wow. 24-ish hours gone, three pages of discussion/rant/whatever.

On comic: Not telling Faye about Dora's decision is probably OK for the moment. Faye has enough on her plate to worry about, and this would probably only compound it.

By the same token, Faye should be informed of this. Preferably from Marten or Dora. Why? Well, Dora is doing this because dumping emotional baggage on someone you love, regardless of whether the feeling is reciprocated, is not cool. I still stand by my belief that Dora is doing the right thing in the worst possible way, but since she is doing it anyway, it should be done properly at least. By telling Faye why she is doing this, Faye can give her thoughts on whether Dora is doing the right thing or not.

Edit: Hearing this from a third person (or worse still, Sven), would be more damaging than anything. Thoughts that spring to mind would be that this is somehow her fault, which would be like taking out key support struts in a mineshaft. Crushing damage included.

dawolf:

--- Quote from: Bob of the South on 26 Aug 2014, 05:23 ---First time poster, here. Hi everyone!

I've honestly been a little taken aback by the responses about Sven's confession. I don't see how its an awful thing to do at all. He didn't try to force or coerce her into doing anything, but gave her information she would need to make a choice, which she did (even if it wasn't the decision Sven wanted her to make). The idea that a grown woman just shouldn't be able to make the choice herself seems...odd to me.

--- End quote ---

First time poster here as well.

I don't understand why what Sven's done (right now) is so bad. Dora states..."you know everything Sven's done."

What has he done, to Dora?

Been more popular than her (not his fault)
Been the target for her girlfriends (not his fault)
Slept around (how does that hurt Dora? It's questionable if it even hurts the women in question, depending on whether he's being honest with them)
Gone out with Faye (not a problem)
Cheated on Faye (his fault - and the mistake)
Realised he made a mistake and told Faye he loves her (questionable whether this is even a problem, and nothing to do with Dora).

He also

Acted like a gentleman towards Hannelore
Helped Dora get over Marten
Gave Dora a place to stay when she left Marten

Why does she think he's such a bad guy?

The problem here is that Dora has unrealistic expectations of other people. They have to meet her perceived value of perfect to be ok.

Sven's a more likeable (and less toxic) character IMO....

CaptainFish:
Well he also manipulated Marten into lying to an ex-girlfriend when they met. She didn't have a great opinion of him, so there's probably some manipulation or at least lack-of-communication leading to Sven and the women he hooks up with having different ideas of what they want.

I definitely agree that since he cheated on Faye and had the intern who moonlighted as a conscience he's been a decent person. I even think that if he had told Faye he loved her for the purposes of being able to move on, rather than truly expecting it to break up her relationship regardless of what Faye wants, it wouldn't have been a 'bad' act. Even with those expectations it reads better to me than, say, weaseling his way into their social group on the off chance he could take advantage of Faye's physical attraction to him in a drunk or emotionally compromised moment.

Dora has a lot of issues tied to having to work hard to get where she is and not always thinking she's doing well, while her brother has coasted on charisma and producing low quality music. They both think the same way though, cause Sven did truly think his confession would work, cause everything just works for him.

I think more communication should happen before she commits to this decision, at least with her therapist. I'd also like it if Faye and Dora were a bit more forthcoming not because their lives are quote "any of the other's business" end-quote, but because when shit like this is hidden it tends to get revealed in messy ways and as friends they should be able to discuss things.

GarandMarine:
Damn. I am proud that I made the thread this week. I know it has nothing to do with me whatsoever, but newbs out of every conceivable piece of wood work, mod warnings, multi-paragraph arguments! It's just lovely. Though I am slightly disturbed by the sheer rage against violence amongst friends in here. If you can't have a fist fight in a parking lot with your best friend that would make Tyler Durden from Fight Club wince and suggest you might be going too far THEN still be best friends seconds after finishing the fight, you might need to reevaluate the magic of friendship in your life.

Barmymoo:
Most people find casual violence and violence as a response to anger or irritation unacceptable. Having seen the consequences of the normalisation of violence as a response to not getting what you want, or being annoyed at something, first hand in my own life and in my career, I can completely understand. Rough-housing is one thing. Smacking a friend round the head because you don't like something they did is another.

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