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WCDT: 2816-2820 (20-24 October 2014) Weekly Comic Discussion Thread

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Shjade:

--- Quote from: snubnose on 20 Oct 2014, 05:12 ---Comic is ADOREABLE ! :-D

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Sad Faye is saddest Faye. ;.;

Somnus Eternus:
All I know is that after this discussion, I'm picturing Marten as Andy Griffith.

And Clinton is Barney Fife.

Pilchard123:

--- Quote from: GarandMarine on 20 Oct 2014, 00:47 ---I figured. Thought I'd cut your joke's tires for fun though.

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Boats don't have tires.

ReindeerFlotilla:

--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 20 Oct 2014, 11:09 ---
--- Quote from: ReindeerFlotilla on 20 Oct 2014, 10:08 ---Accountability is overrated, especially in situations like this. It follows from the western fetish for punishment and vengeance. I'm not sure how revenge is useful in this context. If you care about someone, you try to help them. Period. If you can't because of other emotion, you admit the other emotion is stronger than your ability to care about that person. It's all rather simple, but we value judge the caring to the extent that not caring enough is something only bad people do. Since we aren't bad people, it must be someone else's fault. BS self justification, but lying to ourselves so we can judge others is fundamental to the human condition.

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And you are only applying this to Angus. You aren't applying this to Faye at all. You treat Angus like none of this hurts him, that Faye doesn't, in any way, need to be there for him, as well. She is the one who has issues that are preventing the issue from even being DEALT with. Why is Angus responsible for Faye's happiness, but Faye seems to be in no way responsible for his?

In the end, they have to work together. Nothing else WORKS. A one sided relationship isn't a relationship. And throughout their relationship, it HASN'T been one sided, though hehasn't had any major dramas, she hasn't been doing nothing but leaching off him. I think people don't give Faye enough credit, she has issues, but she isn't an emotional cripple. Its insulting the way everyone just absolves any possible responsibility she has for her actions, as though having issues suddenly makes you have the culpability of a child.

I have personal past issues that cause me to be inable to let go of arguments. When I get angry, I can't walk away. I would have never done what Angus did in this scene, which is why I know how much it was the right thing to do. I know why I'm like that, I can link it to specific issues in my past that I have no interest in talking about. I know that it happens. But that doesn't make it not a shit thing for me to do to my wife. That doesn't mean I'm not wrong. And it doesn't mean I can't do everything I can to make it better, by both making it happen less often, and trying to repair the damage it does when it does happen.

I'm responsible for it. My wife isn't responsible for it. Me. Because despite being a damaged individual, I'm a goddamned adult.

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That's your inference and has nothing at all to do with what I actually wrote. I'd rather not get involved in an infinite regression of strawmen. I don't have issue with misunderstandings, but here you are inventing a point of view and ascribing it to me. I've considered several options for explaining how this argument is unrelated to anything I've said, but I can't see a way to do that without legitimizing this tactic of putting words in my mouth. I don't doubt you sincerely believe that your invention and my point of view are connected, but I don't have any particular onus to correct you. dealing with the finer points of character motivation is entertaining, and I'd be happy to address this one, if it were raised as a simple objection--suggesting that it's a consequence, or raising it as a what if.  instead, youare trying to force me to defend it, and I've no interest in that.

Aziraphale:

--- Quote from: Pilchard123 on 20 Oct 2014, 11:39 ---
--- Quote from: GarandMarine on 20 Oct 2014, 00:47 ---I figured. Thought I'd cut your joke's tires for fun though.

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Boats don't have tires.

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What if the boat's on a trailer?

("What if he attacks you with a pointed stick?")

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